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DHS patrolling Portland in unmarked vans

(This post was last modified: 07-23-2020, 06:25 AM by jj82284.)

(07-21-2020, 08:19 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(07-21-2020, 07:08 PM)EricC85 Wrote: And what about trump saying Chicago, Oakland and other cities are next? He’s using the federal branch to enforce local laws that’s not the federal governments role. If local cities want to burn let them it’s up to those citizens to be responsible and elect officials that will enforce law and order. If they can’t they can relocate they can move on to somewhere that will. But we don’t need to establish a national police force to control the mobs that’s a dangerous proposition and that’s what trump has openly advocated, “ if the cities won’t I will enforce law and order” 

Again this can be used by others once this precedent is set you might be comfortable with trump doing it would you be as comfortable with Biden or Obama doing it?

If people are rioting in the street and burning down federal buildings with the locals not doing a damn thing about it while they are in office then I would. Libertarianism is not Anarchy.

The cornerstone of libertarianism/minarchism is the basic principle of private property rights.  When an individual or group is threatening or violating the property rights of others its the first and possibly only true role of government to put down that threat and alleviate that violation.  If someone wants to play games with federal property, you win federal prizes.

(07-22-2020, 04:58 PM)JackCity Wrote: don't worry, the guys with guns will help stop the tyrannical government any second now...

Statists have perverted the idea of government so much that they no longer understand its function.  They think the government enforcing constitutional laws to protect property is tyranny, but they are usually the first to line up and demand that the state take over private property to make PPE or make draconian edicts to enforce arbitrary mask mandates or economic lockdowns.  The level of willful ignorance on these topics is staggering and frankly offensive.  We spend on average about 150 to 200k on the average high school graduates public education.  You'd think that in that time most people would have even a cursory understanding of the role of government in a free society.  This is frankly shameful and you should be embarrassed.
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homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-17-2020, 12:03 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by JackCity - 07-17-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-17-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by JackCity - 07-17-2020, 01:57 PM
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RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 07-18-2020, 07:55 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 07-18-2020, 08:06 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 07-18-2020, 09:29 PM
Mojoking - by MojoKing - 07-19-2020, 06:48 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 07-19-2020, 08:26 PM
RE: Copycat - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-19-2020, 08:43 PM
RE: Copycat - by JackCity - 07-19-2020, 09:09 PM
RE: Copycat - by The Real Marty - 07-20-2020, 05:02 AM
RE: Copycat - by StroudCrowd1 - 07-20-2020, 07:52 AM
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RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 07-20-2020, 09:58 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-20-2020, 10:50 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-21-2020, 09:28 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 07-21-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 07-21-2020, 10:58 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-21-2020, 11:06 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 07-21-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 07-21-2020, 11:57 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sammy - 07-21-2020, 11:13 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-21-2020, 09:40 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Lucky2Last - 07-21-2020, 10:27 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-21-2020, 10:31 AM
RE: DHS patrolling Portland in unmarked vans - by jj82284 - 07-23-2020, 06:22 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-22-2020, 01:34 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 07-27-2020, 09:01 AM
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homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-08-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by JackCity - 08-08-2020, 10:00 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-08-2020, 11:02 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by JackCity - 08-09-2020, 02:08 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 08-09-2020, 07:35 AM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-09-2020, 06:39 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 08-09-2020, 09:52 PM
RE: Copycat - by flsprtsgod - 08-09-2020, 11:20 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-10-2020, 06:05 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-10-2020, 06:06 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-10-2020, 06:07 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-10-2020, 07:43 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-19-2020, 09:09 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by TrivialPursuit - 08-19-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-19-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Jagwired - 08-19-2020, 12:40 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by jagibelieve - 08-19-2020, 01:35 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-30-2020, 01:53 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-02-2020, 06:26 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by jagibelieve - 09-02-2020, 06:32 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 09-06-2020, 08:05 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by flsprtsgod - 09-06-2020, 08:28 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by Sammy - 09-06-2020, 04:22 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by TrivialPursuit - 09-06-2020, 05:58 PM
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