(08-30-2020, 06:47 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:

(08-30-2020, 06:22 PM)Bullseye Wrote: First off, the Ravens did have Dilfer, but they had a very strong offensive line featuring Jon Ogden.  HUGE difference between their OL, and our decimated OL in 2018.

Secondly, Tampa's OL in 2002 was another good run blocking unit.  Once the injuries decimated the offensive line, we couldn't run the ball, either.

Third, you are penalizing that defense for NOT being the 2000 Ravens or 2002 Bucs?!?

Seriously?!?

Ramsey and Yan would both still be capable of making a difference here if both were happy and signed here.  Ramsey made the Pro Bowl last year, and in Yan's last game he produced ANOTHER fumble returned for a TD to cap of a 7.5 sack season hindered by an early season injury.

Of all of the GMs this team has had, Caldwell is the only one who has drafted a Pro Bowler at WR (Robinson and Chark), and found Hurns as an UDFA.


Name a better drafter in this team's history.

I am not doing the Caldwell thing all over again, you wanna go? go back to read at old threads.
Harris was better
Tell me again the winning record for this team under Caldwell with and without TC.

Our 2017 Defense was great but not at the level of those 2. 
And like I said most of those players are either out of the league or having average seasons but feel free to continue to cry over their loss.
I am done with the Yan thing too, go back to old threads. He is good, not great, as the compensation we got clearly shows that.

First off, while depleted, this team was still in better shape roster wise when Shack and Jack took over than when Caldwell took over.  When Shack took over, he already had guys like Stroud and Henderson on the roster.  I defy you to name anyone close to a young Stroud or Henderson Caldwell had on the roster around which to build.

I specifically mentioned three maybe four players from that team that should still be here.  Stop harping on ALL of those players and focus on the three or four I am talking about.

TC brought in most of the very free agents you dismiss now.  He brought in Campbell, Bouye, and Church, and also Fournette.  But don't act as if TCs team would have won without Caldwell's draft picks.  Fact is both TC players and DC players were instrumental in building that team.  Just because you operate under the delusion that 2017 would have won without Linder, Hurns, Telvin Smith, Yannick Ngakoue, and Jalen Ramsey doesn't mean I am so inclined to accompany you in fantasy land.

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