(08-30-2020, 07:04 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:

(08-30-2020, 06:12 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Not only that, he COMPLETELY disregards Pro Bowl caliber players!

Campbell was NFL Defensive player of the year while he was with us.

Telvin Smith made a Pro Bowl with us, won at least three different AFC Player of the week awards and had multiple TDs.

Yannick Ngakoue made a Pro Bowl, had a season with double digit sacks, and generally led the league in forced fumbles during the time he was here.  He was the catalyst to many Jaguars TDs, including the sack and FF Telvin Smith returned for a TD in the playoff game against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Ramsey?  All Pro...Pro bowl...even with the Rams.

I guess Haunting Raven prefers the Gene Smith era.

Wow really? pathetic.

Just FYI since your memory sucks... I was also a "troll" and a "hater" in that era for speaking against Gene when all the idiots were praising him and saying he was a genius.

I guess you love the team to be garbage since that is what this team has been since Caldwell became the GM and brought Gus and Bortles with him. Only winning season was with TC in charge.

Anyway enjoy another garbage season with your hero Caldwell as GM.

1.  Just because I didn't remember YOU that doesn't mean my memory sucks.  Assuming you were there, I was not among those calling you an idiot for any anti Gene Smith takes.  I remember plenty of people from this board going back over some 18 years (and longer counting former AOL and T-U posters.

2.  I HATE that the team has been garbage.  But I also believe in affixing blame where it deserves.  All things told, Caldwell's drafting has been pretty good.  He messed up on the Bradley hire.  He is to blame for player retention, though you could easily make the argument that Coughlin drove guys like Allen Robinson, Jalen Ramsey and Yannick Ngakoue away, not Caldwell.  Considering TC was in charge the last three years, two of which saw the team lose for two seasons and watched these players leave, maybe TC is getting off light in the Jaguars analysis.  With the Jaguars, he had 5 winning seasons to his credit and six losing seasons...no Super Bowls.  While TC often nailed first round picks (Boselli, Hardy, FT and DD, Stroud and Henderson), he often missed horribly in subsequent picks (Brian DeMarco, Bryan Schwartz, Chris Hudson, Mike Logan, James Hamilton, Cordell Taylor, Jonathon Quinn, Larry Smith, Anthony Cesario, Kevin Landolt, Eric Westmoreland, James Boyd).  he may not do enough to turn the team around this year.  He may well be fired after this year.  But I would put his draft performance against any other GM in this team's history.

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