(09-11-2020, 09:48 PM)lastonealive Wrote:

(09-11-2020, 08:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: But would the US still have the most confirmed deaths, or would Brazil have more?
We are doing so poorly compared to Canada and Mexico, it's hard to escape the conclusion that anything we might have done differently would have improved matters.

While Trump has been utterly hopeless, I don't think they would have ever done as well as Canada due to the better access to Healthcare for Canadians particularly between those on the poverty line in both countries.

Canada didn't have the snafus with testing that we had early on.
They also already had the cultural norm that it's OK for a worker to stay home when they are sick. 
We are only now developing that norm. So many employers lumped vacation and sick days into the nebulous "PTO" category. People here are still saying, gosh, I'm sick, but I don't want to lose my PTO..
Canadians care about good government and they take care of each other, but I don't think the universal health insurance specifically played a role in reducing transmission.  I suppose there may have been some employers demanding a doctor's note if you're going to stay home sick, and in theory it's easier to get a doctor's note in a country where it costs nothing to see a doctor, but we both know that's not what actually happened.

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(09-11-2020, 09:19 PM)jj82284 Wrote:

(09-11-2020, 08:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: But would the US still have the most confirmed deaths, or would Brazil have more?
We are doing so poorly compared to Canada and Mexico, it's hard to escape the conclusion that anything we might have done differently would have improved matters.

In other news, New York has the highest death per million.....  in the world...  in THE WORLD!!!  They are skewing the rest of the countries deaths per million by roughly 100.  but by all means, obviously we should have undertaken more of THAT strategy because the bad orange man is, in fact, that bad.

I mean, yeah, when you have the population density of Tokyo or Hong Kong but no mask wearing in the first months after we know about the virus, that's what happens.

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