(09-22-2020, 12:57 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 12:34 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: I’m torn on Marrone; his seeming  lack of discipline with the penalties that kill drives is frustrating. His turtle job in the second half of the afc championship game still infuriates me.

But for his overall record, you are only as good as your QB. And look what he had to work with pre-Minshew. Bortles and Kessler would never cut it in the long run. Rumor has it that the FO made him start Foles last year when he returned. Should he be given a chance with Minshew if this season they show progress? I don’t know; I mean, Belichick tanked in Cleveland with no franchise QB; it’s actually eerily similar to how marrone has done so far: one playoff season and four bad ones:

1991: 6-10
1992: 7-9
1993: 7-9
1994: 11-5
1995: 5-11 (fired)
2000: 5-11
2001, pre Brady: 0-2

He then goes to NE and was tanking there until a 6th round QB came out of nowhere and changed the fortunes of the franchise forever...hmmmm

Wow...

Belichick had a winning season with Matt freaking Cassel
BB is one of the best ever in bringing out the best out of his players


Marrone and BB are nothing alike.
There is absolutely no point in comparing them.

Did they make the playoffs? No, and they had the thinnest cupcake schedule in the league that year. 

Belichick received time to grow in NE, time bought to him by Brady. If a coach is truly defined by his talent only and can overcome a deficient roster, then why didn’t Belichick have an overall winning record before Brady? If you look at any consistently winning coach, not just him, you’ll always find a good QB behind him. Yes, good coaches can overcome or gloss over inadequate QBs and utilize other talent they have to have a winning season here or there. 2008 patriots, 2017 jags, 2008 dolphins, Jets with mark sanchez, etc but sooner or later if you don’t have The Man the bill will come due. You can only play around your QB for so long, we know that all too well in Jax

That’s not to say Marrone should stay; I’m just saying if the jags surprise us this year and win say, 8 games a case can be made for him to stay. Can be. Not necessarily should be

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