(09-22-2020, 09:18 PM)Eric1 Wrote:

(09-22-2020, 09:03 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: How about we play that game with Dave

-#1 2nd overall pick Luke Joeckle "The Joke"  Was off the team before he retired
-#1 3rd overall pick Blake Bortles  Just a disaster of a pick
#1 3rd overall pick Dante Fowler was traded for peanuts .
#1 5th overall pick Jalen Ramsey:  Just a disaster of a situation that made the team look very bad


I could do this with Forunette and lower round picks etc.   Lets also not forget the very poor free agents Caldwell has wasted money on as well.  This team should be a dynasty with the draft capital and salary cap room we have had.

Joeckel always was going to be one of the top picks. I wanted Ziggy, but Joeckel was constantly in the talks to be #1 overall. He busted, it happens. Wasn't a reach.

Bortles, definitely a reach and a bad pick. No way around it.

Fowler is productive and was drafted right where he should of been. Couldn't pay everybody.

Ramsey is an elite talent and drafted right where he should of been. You can't blame Caldwell for Ramsey acting like a baby and a spoiled brat. That's on him, not Dave.

The point is, I responded to your previous post because you claimed all of those players went on to contribute to their new teams and tried to make it seem like Dave cut them for no reason and that it greatly hurt this team, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Every one of those players didn't contribute to their new teams and most were out of the league within 2 years.

The point was Dave came here in 2013 and released the few solid players we had.  He played a role on how bare the roster was in 2013.   Also, Dave came here with the philosophy of building through the draft.   Dave has a done a really poor job at drafting in the first round. With his philosophy with "building through the draft" the first round is essential to get the top elite talent.  Dave has failed time and time again to pick the right player.  The few times he does get it right with the Ramsey, Yannick(2nd round), or Fowler picks he failed to retain such players.

Any place outside of Jacksonville, Detroit, or Cleveland Calwell would of been fired years ago.   Regardless if I like it or not, I have to deal with this at least another season.   I hope he has learned from his many failures and maybe put a solid consistent team together.

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