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Anybody Still Doubting Caldwell?

(This post was last modified: 09-28-2020, 10:24 AM by NeptuneBeachBum.)

(09-28-2020, 01:29 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(09-27-2020, 10:26 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: It is my opinion that Caldwell endorses Wash and his defense, but it is logically based on the fact that it is the only defense Caldwell has worked with while he has been here.  If he didn't like the scheme, I am sure he would have told Khan it needed to be changed when he hired Morrone.  Unlike your opinions, mine are supported by logical premises.  For facts, please see my signature.

OK. Please describe the defensive scheme that works for the current talent level of this team.

You're missing the point. 

There are indeed ways to scheme this talent level far better than it's being utilized. The most glaring responses involve less  of this soft zone that  allows everything and anything underneath and more aggressive blitzing to give your weakened secondary a fighting chance with some help up front.  But the POINT was that they knew Wash wouldn't budge from this scheme and they took away what he needed to have a fighting chance and didn't do enough to replace it. 

Outside of that - I really like what Dave and Doug did to this football team over the offseason. Sincerely.

We will agree to disagree.  More blitzing will expose our already weak secondary.  Mixing things up more?  Sure.  But you are damned if you do, or damned if you don't with this current talent pool.

I really don't know what there is to like about the off-season moves.  Please elaborate.  Because we look like a 2-14 team at the moment who just got our teeth kicked in by the "rebuilding" Miami Dolphins.

(09-28-2020, 09:09 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(09-27-2020, 08:04 PM)NeptuneBeachBum Wrote: 1.  True story.
2.  Every scheme requires talent to be successful.  The 2nd part is your uneducated opinion.
3.  For the most part, we are all just stating opinions.  But on Red Cover 2 (which even a novice can tell the play in question clearly was) the basic fundamentals are facts, not opinions. Anyone who has played or coached knows this (its clear you don't, hence the evidence of your lack of tactical understanding).
4.  Its your opinion (and hubris) that assumes it is the scheme that limits our performance.  And I'm an ex-coach now because it was too much of a grind for me... I missed my free time to enjoy things beyond football.  Plus I make more money and have more time for my kids doing what I do now.   Cool 

Peace brother.


Its not fresh in my mind, so I'd have to look at it again to form an educated opinion.  But the fact that we were in the AFC Championship game and had the #2 rated D in the League suggests scheme was not a problem for some reason that year.

So just a simple statement then, you call it true or false:

Coaching (scheme and concepts, teaching fundamentals and motivation, and game day play calling) has less impact on overall success than the talent of the players. 

Yes or no?

Yes.  Obviously both have an impact, but talents trumps scheme.  If my X can destroy your O, then the scheme is secondary. Its the Jimmy's and the Joe's more than the X's and the O's. The defensive roster of 2017 and 2018 should be enough evidence of that.  Same scheme, different talent, different results.
This is a results-oriented business.  There are no trophies or titles given for "moral victories" or for "winning the draft".  Our record with DC is 37-86.  6-10 is our 2nd best season in 8 years of Caldwell leadership.  These are the FACTS.
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RE: Anybody Still Doubting Caldwell? - by mikesez - 09-22-2020, 11:56 AM
RE: Anybody Still Doubting Caldwell? - by FBT - 09-21-2020, 12:35 PM
RE: Anybody Still Doubting Caldwell? - by NCJag - 09-21-2020, 12:43 PM
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