(11-24-2020, 04:47 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(11-24-2020, 03:59 PM)JackCity Wrote: Taven was projected to go in that range by pretty everyone. The Jags said he was on the top of their board and independent reporting indicated the same. You can call him a 'need' pick all you want but there isn't anything to suggest he wasn't drafted for being in the top tier of their board, bar him being a bust and someone you didn't like. 

The reality we he was both. I hated the Chaisson pick but it was also pretty obvious he was on the top tier of their board while also being a big need at that pick. 

People using "player ended up being bad = he was a need pick" is incredibly lazy

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Also I'm 90% sure Caldwell stays, 80% sure Marrone and the coaching staff is gone though

They always say who they take is the top player on their board. They said Chaisson was a top 4 player on their board yet they took CJ at 9, cmon man. But if what you say is true, then that has been the problem all along.  They need to throw need out the window and take BPA because ever position is a need other than RB.  Hell if we are in the 2nd or 3rd and the BPA is RB take him.

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Its funny you think all teams draft the same and that some teams don't draft for need over BPA.  Multiple GMs have talked about the need vs BPA.  Hell, Dave has even talked about it in certain rounds.  This has been going on forever

that's exactly my point though. You saying Taven Bryan wasn't in their top tier for that pick isn't actually backed by anything. It's not a pick independent of BPA available because you say it is. 

And no I don't think teams draft the same at all. Once again it's not one or the other, it's both! Just to varying degrees. 

For some picks they are both the best player available and the biggest need. For others they might be the best player left at a weak position in the draft, and at a valuable position so you take them ahead of other players. Sometimes there's a player you have ranked highly but know the next few players in that positional pool runs deeper so hold pat etc etc 

The need/BAP thing isn't supposed to mean a BAP pick is made independent of need or vice versa. Rather you can lean one way while still paying heed of the other. You're not just selecting players for who you need now...but rather what your roster will need over the next few years and long term

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