(11-24-2020, 09:38 PM)enigma Wrote:

(11-24-2020, 09:03 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Are you trying to say most athletic QBs make it?  Let's look at the rings.  Athletic QBs vs your true pocket passer and see who has more

Did I say that? No.

I'm pointing out how you cherry picked those three. It's not as easy to find those players, because if it was then every team would have one and not tractor-driving Todd's.

Also, I'm just going to point out the flawed logic in your athletic QBs vs true pocket passer statement. First, football is a team sport so there is a lot more that goes into teams that win the big one than just one piece. Obviously, the QB position is arguably the most important position and has the most impact on every play but it's also the hardest to fill in.

Furthermore, I'd go out on a limb and say that these QBs who are more athletic (or even dual-threat as well) have become a recent phenomenon - where the players are currently the biggest, fastest, strongest, and most talented that we have EVER seen. So the track record for these "athletic" QBs are not as vast as the pocket passers who have littered the league since it's inception even with the few QBs who were athletic for their times back in the day. Another thing, the game has certainly changed immensely from previous era's and is moving towards fast-paced, dynamic offenses.

Like the previous poster mentioned, athletic doesn't just denote a "running" QB. Mahomes and others like Wilson, Jackson, etc will certainly add to that tally.

(11-24-2020, 09:45 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(11-24-2020, 09:38 PM)enigma Wrote: Did I say that? No.

I'm pointing out how you cherry picked those three. It's not as easy to find those players, because if it was then every team would have one and not tractor-driving Todd's.

Also, I'm just going to point out the flawed logic in your athletic QBs vs true pocket passer statement. First, football is a team sport so there is a lot more that goes into teams that win the big one than just one piece. Obviously, the QB position is arguably the most important position and has the most impact on every play but it's also the hardest to fill in.

Furthermore, I'd go out on a limb and say that these QBs who are more athletic (or even dual-threat as well) have become a recent phenomenon - where the players are currently the biggest, fastest, strongest, and most talented that we have EVER seen. So the track record for these "athletic" QBs are not as vast as the pocket passers who have littered the league since it's inception even with the few QBs who were athletic for their times back in the day. Another thing, the game has certainly changed immensely from previous era's and is moving towards fast-paced, dynamic offenses.

Like the previous poster mentioned, athletic doesn't just denote a "running" QB. Mahomes and others like Wilson, Jackson, etc will certainly add to that tally.

Well said.

Allen, Mahomes, Wilson, Murray, Burrow, Herbert....

Athletic QBs who can do just about everything.