(11-25-2020, 11:14 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(11-25-2020, 10:44 AM)Upper Wrote: 1. I think if I were evaluating Teddy now I would have those qualms too. It's been what 6 years now? I think/hope most of us evaluate differently now than we did more than half a decade ago. Having to put emphasis on a QBs off platform/out of structure traits is a fairly recent thing with the ascension of the Mahomes/Wilson/Kyler/Ljax/Allen prototypes plus all of these hybrid defenses that bring more and more exotic pressures.

2. The hope was that Teddy's arm would get stronger as he put weight on his frame. He was also a young draft prospect. Maturation and development physically was assumed. Trask is already older and physically mature. He isn't gaining any arm strength.

3. Teddy wasn't a freak athlete, but he was plenty mobile. He is waaaay more athletic than Trask.

Trask is 1 year older than Fields and Lawrence.  Trask is  thicker and stronger than he was last year so he definitely has room to grow, not to mention he has improved in pretty much aspect with his 1 full year starting.  Trask has as much room to grow as any player in the draft.  I just don't value mobility on a QB as much as some.  Id rather my QB move around in the pocket like Trask and make the throw than take off and run if that QB is good enough like Trask has shown so far this year.   But there is still a bunch of games to go so ill wait to see if Trask continues to play at the level he has.

1 year is a big difference in physical development at that age. We were comparing Trask and Teddy why did you suddenly bait and switch to Fields and Lawrence? They already have the physicality needed to do all of them they don't need to mature physically. Teddy needed the physical maturity and had reasons to expect that he would, but he never did. Trask doesn't have the arm and his build suggests that he doesn't have the capacity to add it either.

Lastly, who is the last true franchise QB that doesn't have good off script/on the move traits? Maybe Carr and Goff is about the best unless you go back more than a decade, and they're mid level starting QBs at best. Kyler, Lamar, Allen, Burrow, Watson, Mahomes, Herbert, Wentz, Wilson (just going down the QB list in team order not talent order obv). If your QB can't excel both in and out of the pocket his ceiling is very capped in the modern NFL.

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