(12-09-2020, 04:16 PM)Kane Wrote:

(12-09-2020, 02:48 PM)Upper Wrote: I don't have a guy. If we're choosing someone I am probably the highest on compared to others it's Lance as of now, granting that he has more room to move than anyone based on combine/pro day/private workouts. I just feel compelled to defend Fields since people are knocking him based on a lot of illogical things.

Lots of teams have had small covid impacts on the season. OSU's whole season has been one giant covid sandwich. Unless the BIG changes their rules OSU won't even qualify for the conference title game because they've had so many games cancelled.

Fields biggest knock, from what I've seen, is he is a one read (Olave usually, a really good WR) and run QB.
And yeah OSU has been affected by B10 teams having a lot of covid issues and their more strict regulations. But MSU was the only game where they had a bunch of guys missing because of THEIR covid problems. And it was a weak opponent. I'd argue MSU wouldn't beat Vandy, the SEC's worst team...

As of now I'm okay with getting Fields, but I want to have coaches that will develop him from what he is, not build an offense out of what he is now... because it won't last. Lamar Jackson went from MVP to just another running QB in a year. Fields has the potential to be better than that but not if we get Greg Roman to be our HC and he just brings that playbook to town.

Lance is a small school 1 year starter. I just don't see how anyone could want to spend a first round on that, no matter how good he looked or his measurables.
Dude might end up being great, it's just a really small resume and so too big of a risk for me personally.

I've seen Fields make full field reads, he also did in hs and took snaps from under center (qb1 season 2 on netflix follows him during his hs career and is pretty informative) I agree that the Ohio State offense can oversimplify at times but I don't think that Fields will struggle to adapt to an NFL offense, if he needs time holding a clipboard his rookie year than that's what he does but I think he should be ready to start right away.

I think Lamar Jackson's backslide comes from Greg Roman's offense, yes it takes advantage of the qb's mobility/strengths but it badly telegraphs what you want to do each play just based on formation alone. I also think he needs a possesion type WR like an anquan boldin he has mark andrews and then speedy guys on the outside, he needs a consistent option in the midrange passing game outside the numbers. I do agree though that an offense for fields should be about having him grow into being a passer, if we utilize the ravens scheme it'll fizzle out. Id rather see Daboll hired as HC and have his guy at OC, if he can do for Fields what he did for Josh Allen we'll be just fine!

Trask has a good arm, but his lower body is out of sync with his upper half, he's using arm only a lot of times, he needs to refine his mechanics to engage his core and really step into throws to drive the ball. This is correctable though & I think we'll see a large amount of growth with better footwork and more reps mechanically. Mentally he has it, love the way he looks off safetys and sees the field, seems to have super high football iq, if he balls out in the SECCG & CFP I could see a case for him at #2. He has better stats than Burrow did last year besides completion %, that can't be ignored!

Haven't seen enough of BYU to give an opinion on Wilson.

Trey Lance needs a bigger sample size, Carson Wentz played at NDSU but had 4 years of sustained success. Lance struggling in the one game he played this year has me skeptical, I wouldn't be comfortable spending a high first on him on that small a sample size (shades of trubisky) I think he's comparable to Jordan Love who was drafted by the packers.

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