(12-09-2020, 05:38 PM)Kane Wrote:

(12-09-2020, 04:58 PM)Firesky Wrote: I've seen Fields make full field reads, he also did in hs and took snaps from under center (qb1 season 2 on netflix follows him during his hs career and is pretty informative) I agree that the Ohio State offense can oversimplify at times but I don't think that Fields will struggle to adapt to an NFL offense, if he needs time holding a clipboard his rookie year than that's what he does but I think he should be ready to start right away.

I think Lamar Jackson's backslide comes from Greg Roman's offense, yes it takes advantage of the qb's mobility/strengths but it badly telegraphs what you want to do each play just based on formation alone. I also think he needs a possesion type WR like an anquan boldin he has mark andrews and then speedy guys on the outside, he needs a consistent option in the midrange passing game outside the numbers. I do agree though that an offense for fields should be about having him grow into being a passer, if we utilize the ravens scheme it'll fizzle out. Id rather see Daboll hired as HC and have his guy at OC, if he can do for Fields what he did for Josh Allen we'll be just fine!

Trask has a good arm, but his lower body is out of sync with his upper half, he's using arm only a lot of times, he needs to refine his mechanics to engage his core and really step into throws to drive the ball. This is correctable though & I think we'll see a large amount of growth with better footwork and more reps mechanically. Mentally he has it, love the way he looks off safetys and sees the field, seems to have super high football iq, if he balls out in the SECCG & CFP I could see a case for him at #2. He has better stats than Burrow did last year besides completion %, that can't be ignored!

Haven't seen enough of BYU to give an opinion on Wilson.

Trey Lance needs a bigger sample size, Carson Wentz played at NDSU but had 4 years of sustained success. Lance struggling in the one game he played this year has me skeptical, I wouldn't be comfortable spending a high first on him on that small a sample size (shades of trubisky) I think he's comparable to Jordan Love who was drafted by the packers.

I'll be sure to check out that on Netflix. And honestly, if we're drafting a guy at 2 overall he should be good enough to just start instead of hold a clipboard. Clipboard holders come later in round 1 and in round 2. Just my opinion on it. 
And you may be right it may be more about OSU's offense than Fields as a player. Time will tell, as I said I'll check out the show you mention and I've previously said I won't be mad about Fields at 2. He's got a lot of good traits even if he's not a perfect product, which I don't think there ever is one.

And if we were to get a guy like Daboll and he could work with a QB to take him from what Allen was to what he is, yeah I'd be pretty excited.

I think the trend of starting highly picked QB's is a more recent trend of the past decade plus. I think it should be on a case by case basis; Tua sat early this year (health reasons but still) and I think it was to his benefit, Herbert sat the first 2 games. You don't have to sit Fields for the season just long enough that he's more settled in to the nfl, comfortable in the offense and you're past any early season games on the schedule that will get him killed as our Oline isn't exactly stellar (look what happened to Burrow this year, regardless of what QB we take I don't want them to be hammered and injured a few games into their career)

The QB1 series shows Fields at circa age 16, so don't expect anything too crazy in terms of X's & O's but it really dove into his upbringing, how hard he works at his craft, and how damn competitive he is! I know his time at UGA was limited, but their offense isn't as simple as OState's and he seemed just fine in the action he got there as a true freshman. I agree that there's rarely a perfect prospect, I think Fields is just a really good fit for the talent/personell/pieces we have on offense right now; If Fields isn't the pick i'm hoping Trask proves himself to be worthy of a high pick, there's a lot to like with him!

Regardless of QB I think Daboll should be the hire I'm glad you think the same way about him!

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