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Over Looked, The Hunter Biden Scandal

#21

(10-20-2020, 08:49 AM)The Drifter Wrote: Hunter Biden's Former Business Partner FLIPS; Gives Breitbart Access To Everything

A former business parter of Hunter Biden has given the journalists at Breitbart damning new emails that prove just how corrupt the Biden family actually is. It's even worse than we thought.

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-hu...verything/

(10-20-2020, 10:07 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Hunter Biden’s attorneys were stupid enough to call and ask to get the laptop back—proving ownership.

They aren’t denying ownership or authenticity. The chain of custody can be proven with the original hard drive. You’re really in denial, my dude.

I guess this is why they locked Biden into his basement
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(10-20-2020, 10:07 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Hunter Biden’s attorneys were stupid enough to call and ask to get the laptop back—proving ownership.

They aren’t denying ownership or authenticity. The chain of custody can be proven with the original hard drive. You’re really in denial, my dude.

Is there a recording of a the phone call?

If a high profile lawyer claimed to have a copy of a hard drive of yours, would you ignore it, or try to get him to cease and desist?
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#23

Mike should have become a criminal defense attorney. He could have at least profited off his soulless purview of the world.
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#24


Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 
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#25

(10-20-2020, 11:08 AM)Jagwired Wrote:

He doesn't have the temperament to be POTUS.
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(10-20-2020, 11:08 AM)Jagwired Wrote:


That’s #fakenews...but #neverforget RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA!  Laughing
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???
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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2020, 12:05 PM by Jagwired.)




Looking to troll? Don't bother, we supply our own.

 

 
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#28
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2020, 01:18 PM by JagNGeorgia.)

(10-20-2020, 10:56 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 10:07 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Hunter Biden’s attorneys were stupid enough to call and ask to get the laptop back—proving ownership.

They aren’t denying ownership or authenticity. The chain of custody can be proven with the original hard drive. You’re really in denial, my dude.

Is there a recording of a the phone call?

If a high profile lawyer claimed to have a copy of a hard drive of yours, would you ignore it, or try to get him to cease and desist?

You truly will go to any length to defend the worst positions. If he’s a high profile lawyer, he’s going to record his conversations. If your Hunter Biden’s attorney, you DO NOT call and ask for the specific computer that this high profile lawyer says contains incriminating evidence of your client unless you’re telling them that the computer and it’s contents belong to your client. 

If Hunter Biden wanted to handle this correctly, he’d contact local or federal law enforcement and ask them to investigate whatever it is that he would blame for being responsible for the contents of that laptop. I imagine, however, that the FBI already knows what’s on the laptop since the child pornography investigator already handled the laptop. These types of investigators also make physical copies of the contents. 

Edit: Hunter Biden's attorneys didn't call Giuliani for the hard drive. They called and emailed the computer store that he gave the laptop. Giuliani said that the lawyer's specifically asked for Hunter Biden's laptop.

I’d love to hear why you think the FBI investigated the child-sniffer’s son for child pornography too.

(10-20-2020, 11:03 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Mike should have become a criminal defense attorney. He could have at least profited off his soulless purview of the world.

Except none of his arguments would hold up in court.
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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2020, 02:18 PM by mikesez.)

(10-20-2020, 12:16 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 10:56 AM)mikesez Wrote: Is there a recording of a the phone call?

If a high profile lawyer claimed to have a copy of a hard drive of yours, would you ignore it, or try to get him to cease and desist?

You truly will go to any length to defend the worst positions. If he’s a high profile lawyer, he’s going to record his conversations. If your Hunter Biden’s attorney, you DO NOT call and ask for the specific computer that this high profile lawyer says contains incriminating evidence of your client unless you’re telling them that the computer and it’s contents belong to your client. 

If Hunter Biden wanted to handle this correctly, he’d contact local or federal law enforcement and ask them to investigate whatever it is that he would blame for being responsible for the contents of that laptop. I imagine, however, that the FBI already knows what’s on the laptop since the child pornography investigator already handled the laptop. These types of investigators also make physical copies of the contents. 

Edit: Hunter Biden's attorneys didn't call Giuliani for the hard drive. They called and emailed the computer store that he gave the laptop. Giuliani said that the lawyer's specifically asked for Hunter Biden's laptop.

I’d love to hear why you think the FBI investigated the child-sniffer’s son for child pornography too.

Unless there is a recording of the call, we don't know what was said.
Unless there is metadata for the call, we don't even know that the call was placed.
None of this is any more credible than Some Dude On Twitter.
Take the politics out of it.  Imagine someone said something about Josh Allen wanting out of Jacksonville on some social media site.  That would upset you.  You might want to share it.  A lot of people might share it.  But would anyone know it was more than just something someone made up?
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#30

I guess we could use the same logic to undermine the quid pro quo impeachment. Too bad you can't retract your Biden vote.
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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2020, 02:26 PM by StroudCrowd1.)

(10-20-2020, 02:18 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 12:16 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: You truly will go to any length to defend the worst positions. If he’s a high profile lawyer, he’s going to record his conversations. If your Hunter Biden’s attorney, you DO NOT call and ask for the specific computer that this high profile lawyer says contains incriminating evidence of your client unless you’re telling them that the computer and it’s contents belong to your client. 

If Hunter Biden wanted to handle this correctly, he’d contact local or federal law enforcement and ask them to investigate whatever it is that he would blame for being responsible for the contents of that laptop. I imagine, however, that the FBI already knows what’s on the laptop since the child pornography investigator already handled the laptop. These types of investigators also make physical copies of the contents. 

Edit: Hunter Biden's attorneys didn't call Giuliani for the hard drive. They called and emailed the computer store that he gave the laptop. Giuliani said that the lawyer's specifically asked for Hunter Biden's laptop.

I’d love to hear why you think the FBI investigated the child-sniffer’s son for child pornography too.

Unless there is a recording of the call, we don't know what was said.
Unless there is metadata for the call, we don't even know that the call was placed.
None of this is any more credible than Some Dude On Twitter.
Take the politics out of it.  Imagine someone said something about Josh Allen wanting out of Jacksonville on some social media site.  That would upset you.  You might want to share it.  A lot of people might share it.  But would anyone know it was more than just something someone made up?

You literally voted against the president who is in your party for an impeachment where none of the boxes above were checked.

(10-20-2020, 02:23 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I guess we could use the same logic to undermine the quid pro quo impeachment. Too bad you can't retract your Biden vote.

LOL. This guy has painted himself in so many corners.
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(This post was last modified: 10-20-2020, 03:01 PM by JagNGeorgia.)

(10-20-2020, 02:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: Unless there is a recording of the call, we don't know what was said.
Unless there is metadata for the call, we don't even know that the call was placed.
None of this is any more credible than Some Dude On Twitter.
Take the politics out of it.  Imagine someone said something about Josh Allen wanting out of Jacksonville on some social media site.  That would upset you.  You might want to share it.  A lot of people might share it.  But would anyone know it was more than just something someone made up?

It wasn't a call. It was an email. An email that Giuliani says that he and the FBI have in their possession. Why would he say the FBI has a copy if they didn't? That'd be simple for Biden to prove false. None of that matters anyway because they've already released information we know to be true. For example, that most certainly know it is Hunter with that crack pipe. The emails have been verified after an anonymous source gave them information about Hunter's activities (ex. a meeting with Deputy Secretary of State) that were subsequently verified by the times and dates on emails sent from Hunter's laptop. And while you're questioning the authenticity, neither Hunter nor his attorneys are doing that now. 

Now we have Bevan Cooney, Hunter's buisness partner, giving Breitbart access to 26K emails. Cooney, if you remember, was convicted for fraud in a scheme to steal money from a Native American tribe. Hunter was the vice chairman of the firm that negotiated the fraudulent transactions. 

Of course... until YOU look at it, I'm sure you wont believe it. How many times do we need to see the unqualified drug addict in key positions in multiple businesses that received money from foreign governments (or other means) that directly included meetings with Biden or Biden's sphere of influence. We literally have Biden admitting that he forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son if they wanted money, but you wont believe these emails are probably legit? LOL c'mon

This isn't a simply rumor on some right-wing neonazi blogger's website.
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#33

(10-20-2020, 02:23 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I guess we could use the same logic to undermine the quid pro quo impeachment. Too bad you can't retract your Biden vote.

There was a recording and a transcript of Trump's call.
There were multiple witnesses, testifying under oath, who were personally known to the accused.
Funds were withheld against the wishes of our allies and against the wishes of the IMF.
But other than all that, totes the same thing amirite?
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#34

(10-20-2020, 03:23 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 02:23 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I guess we could use the same logic to undermine the quid pro quo impeachment. Too bad you can't retract your Biden vote.

There was a recording and a transcript of Trump's call.
There were multiple witnesses, testifying under oath, who were personally known to the accused.
Funds were withheld against the wishes of our allies and against the wishes of the IMF.
But other than all that, totes the same thing amirite?

That transcript must have been devastating with Mitt Romney being the only "Yes".
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#35

(10-20-2020, 03:00 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 02:18 PM)mikesez Wrote: Unless there is a recording of the call, we don't know what was said.
Unless there is metadata for the call, we don't even know that the call was placed.
None of this is any more credible than Some Dude On Twitter.
Take the politics out of it.  Imagine someone said something about Josh Allen wanting out of Jacksonville on some social media site.  That would upset you.  You might want to share it.  A lot of people might share it.  But would anyone know it was more than just something someone made up?

It wasn't a call. It was an email. An email that Giuliani says that he and the FBI have in their possession. Why would he say the FBI has a copy if they didn't? That'd be simple for Biden to prove false. None of that matters anyway because they've already released information we know to be true. For example, that most certainly know it is Hunter with that crack pipe. The emails have been verified after an anonymous source gave them information about Hunter's activities (ex. a meeting with Deputy Secretary of State) that were subsequently verified by the times and dates on emails sent from Hunter's laptop. And while you're questioning the authenticity, neither Hunter nor his attorneys are doing that now. 

Now we have Bevan Cooney, Hunter's buisness partner, giving Breitbart access to 26K emails. Cooney, if you remember, was convicted for fraud in a scheme to steal money from a Native American tribe. Hunter was the vice chairman of the firm that negotiated the fraudulent transactions. 

Of course... until YOU look at it, I'm sure you wont believe it. How many times do we need to see the unqualified drug addict in key positions in multiple businesses that received money from foreign governments (or other means) that directly included meetings with Biden or Biden's sphere of influence. We literally have Biden admitting that he forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son if they wanted money, but you wont believe these emails are probably legit? LOL c'mon

This isn't a simply rumor on some right-wing neonazi blogger's website.

"...forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son..."

That is simply not true.  That prosecutor was not investigating Hunter Biden.  In fact, he wasn't even investigating Burisma.  The Burisma investigation was dormant.  He wasn't prosecuting anyone of any substance, and the international community wanted him out, and replaced with someone who actually would do some investigating and prosecuting.  Joe Biden was carrying out official government policy, in conjunction with our allies, who also wanted the guy removed and replaced with someone who would crack down on corruption.  

Secondly, none of the emails we have seen were either to or from Joe Biden.  This is Hunter Biden's laptop (supposedly).  Not Joe Biden.   

Thirdly, it is awfully easy to fake this stuff.  And everyone knows, the Russians are out to get Trump re-elected.  

Not even Fox News would take this story, because the source and the timing were so suspicious.
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(10-20-2020, 03:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 03:00 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: It wasn't a call. It was an email. An email that Giuliani says that he and the FBI have in their possession. Why would he say the FBI has a copy if they didn't? That'd be simple for Biden to prove false. None of that matters anyway because they've already released information we know to be true. For example, that most certainly know it is Hunter with that crack pipe. The emails have been verified after an anonymous source gave them information about Hunter's activities (ex. a meeting with Deputy Secretary of State) that were subsequently verified by the times and dates on emails sent from Hunter's laptop. And while you're questioning the authenticity, neither Hunter nor his attorneys are doing that now. 

Now we have Bevan Cooney, Hunter's buisness partner, giving Breitbart access to 26K emails. Cooney, if you remember, was convicted for fraud in a scheme to steal money from a Native American tribe. Hunter was the vice chairman of the firm that negotiated the fraudulent transactions. 

Of course... until YOU look at it, I'm sure you wont believe it. How many times do we need to see the unqualified drug addict in key positions in multiple businesses that received money from foreign governments (or other means) that directly included meetings with Biden or Biden's sphere of influence. We literally have Biden admitting that he forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son if they wanted money, but you wont believe these emails are probably legit? LOL c'mon

This isn't a simply rumor on some right-wing neonazi blogger's website.

"...forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son..."

That is simply not true.  That prosecutor was not investigating Hunter Biden.  In fact, he wasn't even investigating Burisma.  The Burisma investigation was dormant.  He wasn't prosecuting anyone of any substance, and the international community wanted him out, and replaced with someone who actually would do some investigating and prosecuting.  Joe Biden was carrying out official government policy, in conjunction with our allies, who also wanted the guy removed and replaced with someone who would crack down on corruption.  

Secondly, none of the emails we have seen were either to or from Joe Biden.  This is Hunter Biden's laptop (supposedly).  Not Joe Biden.   

Thirdly, it is awfully easy to fake this stuff.  And everyone knows, the Russians are out to get Trump re-elected.  

Not even Fox News would take this story, because the source and the timing were so suspicious.

Yep.

Brace yourself.  They respond to contradiction with mockery rather than introspection. You already know that though.
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#37

Biden Surrogate Makes Shock Admission: Nobody Is Saying Hunter Biden's Emails Are Inauthentic

A surrogate for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden admitted to Fox News on Sunday that the Biden campaign cannot dispute the legitimacy of documents that purport to link Biden to a massive corruption scandal.

https://www.patriotproject.com/biden-sur...KqoKJAT__o
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(10-20-2020, 06:40 PM)The Drifter Wrote: Biden Surrogate Makes Shock Admission: Nobody Is Saying Hunter Biden's Emails Are Inauthentic

A surrogate for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden admitted to Fox News on Sunday that the Biden campaign cannot dispute the legitimacy of documents that purport to link Biden to a massive corruption scandal.

https://www.patriotproject.com/biden-sur...KqoKJAT__o

Nor is anyone saying they're authentic.
Seems like some of them are authentic, and accurate.
And some are not.
But the worst of them just say Joe Biden lied, not that he broke the law.
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(10-20-2020, 07:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-20-2020, 06:40 PM)The Drifter Wrote: Biden Surrogate Makes Shock Admission: Nobody Is Saying Hunter Biden's Emails Are Inauthentic

A surrogate for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden admitted to Fox News on Sunday that the Biden campaign cannot dispute the legitimacy of documents that purport to link Biden to a massive corruption scandal.

https://www.patriotproject.com/biden-sur...KqoKJAT__o

Nor is anyone saying they're authentic.
Seems like some of them are authentic, and accurate.
And some are not.
But the worst of them just say Joe Biden lied, not that he broke the law.

Keep Making excuses and drinking that Blue Kool Aid
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(10-20-2020, 03:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: "...forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating his son..."

That is simply not true.  That prosecutor was not investigating Hunter Biden.  In fact, he wasn't even investigating Burisma.  The Burisma investigation was dormant.  He wasn't prosecuting anyone of any substance, and the international community wanted him out, and replaced with someone who actually would do some investigating and prosecuting.  Joe Biden was carrying out official government policy, in conjunction with our allies, who also wanted the guy removed and replaced with someone who would crack down on corruption.  

Secondly, none of the emails we have seen were either to or from Joe Biden.  This is Hunter Biden's laptop (supposedly).  Not Joe Biden.   

Thirdly, it is awfully easy to fake this stuff.  And everyone knows, the Russians are out to get Trump re-elected.  

Not even Fox News would take this story, because the source and the timing were so suspicious.

December 2013-- Hunter and Joe fly to China and meet with Xi.
December 2013-- Hunter's firm secured a $1.5B deal with a subsidiary of the Bank of China. 
Early 2014-- Joe is appointed the leading role in US policy with Ukraine. 
April 2014-- Hunter joins the board of Burisma Holdings.
November 2015-- Joe is informed, by the New York Times, that Hunter is under investigation.
December 2015-- Joe pressured Ukrainian leaders to fire the prosecutor leading the investigation into Burisma.
March 2016-- Biden threatened (repeated on TV) to withhold $1B in US aid should Ukraine not fire the prosecutor leading that investigation.

The Ukrainian prosecutor signed a sworn affidavit saying he was fired because of the investigation into Burisma. If the Burisma investigation was dormant as you suggest, why then was the VP of the United States worried about a single prosecutor in a foreign country? The entire $1B is, according to Joe, dependent on the employment of one person. I understand that it's Joe's defense that the prosecutor wasn't doing anything. Sure... Joe could be telling the truth, but we know he's already lied about knowing anything about Hunter's business dealings. It also requires us to believe that Joe wasn't selling influence and Hunter was appointed because of qualifications that Hunter said he didn't have.

All of this is to also ignore a pattern of behavior from Hunter and his family. For example, an executive at one of Hunter's old firms said (when speaking about investors), "We've got people all around the world who want to invest in Joe Biden." You just said Burisma was investigated but that it wasn't active. You still don't see the problem with Joe demanding his termination even if it were true? 

As for the emails, if you have a copy of the original hard drive, then you can determine if they were fake emails. The FBI has that original copy. 

This is definitely his laptop. They even showed a picture of the receipt with his signature. 

(10-20-2020, 03:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yep.

Brace yourself.  They respond to contradiction with mockery rather than introspection. You already know that though.

You'll find that people wont mock you if you argue in good faith. While I may often disagree with The Real Marty, he doesn't try to misled or misrepresent himself to others like you do.
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