Could you imagine if this were Don Jr's Laptop? ... It would be the first 59 minutes of every hour long news show.

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You're overthinking this.
You say I misrepresent myself.
But you admit you have no idea who I really am.
So how can you know I misrepresent myself?
You can't.
Just let it go.  
Treat me like the others.
All I admitted to is trying to be more deliberate about which side of my personality I would show here. I used the word "real" in the sense of "real life as opposed to internet forums" not "real as opposed to fake."
You (and many others here) are like that bad girlfriend whose subconscious malice causes her to interpret everything I say in the worst possible light.
Then you get even more mad, subconscious malice becomes actual malice.
Just let it go, dude.
Don't interact with me until you've let go of your anger.

I already told you I don't intend to derail this thread. 

You misrepresent yourself and your arguments all the time. You don't have to like it but that's my opinion.

I'm not mad, by the way. I don't even know why you'd think that. There's no malice or anger here.

A government investigator does not need a warrant to look at things that the owner of the property has already voluntarily provided to them.  The story goes that the laptop was forfeited to the repair shop, then the repair shop voluntarily gave it to the FBI.  Is that story not true? Why would a warrant be needed if that story was true?
Now, they may want to access Hunter Biden's apple account to corroborate what they're finding on the hard drive, and yes that would take some time and a warrant.  But I'm pretty sure reputable cloud services employ AI-sniffers to flag possible child pornography so that can be voluntarily turned over to law enforcement, sometimes without alerting the offending user

Regardless - these hypotheticals have very little to do with the election.  Even if you showed that it was more likely than not that Hunter deliberately kept revealing nude photos of a 14 year old relative on his computer, you'd still have to show reason to believe Joe knew about it and didn't report, before anyone should care.

Yes, they still need a warrant. 

The owner of the laptop came into lawful possession of the property. That doesn't negate the requirement for search warrants. The law enforcement agency doesn't know what they'll find or to whom it belongs. Civil ownership would not be decided by law enforcement. For all they know, they could began searching the laptop, and Hunter proves the computer shop retained it illegally. Should they search that laptop without a search warrant, it will undoubtedly go through a probable cause hearing resulting in any charges being dropped because they didn't get the search warrant. 

Why do you believe the materials were stored on his Cloud? More often than not, they store it on specific hard drives with no direct access to the internet. While internet providers and similar services often flag websites or data involving that material, they don't catch everything, and them not flagging Hunter's account doesn't mean he doesn't have it. Them getting search warrants / court orders for internet providers (and the like) has more to do with proving who hard the laptop on specific dates when the underage materials were downloaded / accessed. It's to prove he was in possession of it and not uploaded by some foreign sources as some have claimed. 

These aren't hypotheticals. These are the steps they must take, and it's why it isn't an immediate arrest as you said. 

I don't have to prove Joe knew about it. Hell, he probably didn't know about it. I was simply telling you that you were wrong about how, had their be underage stuff on there, they would've handled it quickly and arrest Hunter already.

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It’s amazing how when a conservative judge is accused by a person claiming to be a victim of sexual misconduct, you guys become human shields. When a liberal politician’s son is accused by Rudy Giuliani of sexual misconduct and Giuliani has already issued an, “I’m full of [BLEEP],” clarification, you guys have the pitchforks, torches and hangin’ rope all set to go.

Wait, let me guess: Ford was obviously a lie from the start, but Giuliani making a claim about thousands of pictures of a family member involved in an affair, as absurd as the alleged Kavanaugh “gang rape”, is undoubtedly true?

I don't know anyone who said she was lying from the start. I think people started doubting her story when it was so vague and had no corroborating witnesses. Nothing about the Hunter story is vague. It just hasn't been confirmed, which makes me reluctant to completely buy into it at this time. We live in an age of misinformation. 

That said, why isn't the media talking to the store owner? Why aren't we getting updates from the FBI. The only official that has said anything about this, other than Gulliani (who doesn't count), is the director of National Intelligence, who said this has nothing to do with Russia. None of the parties involved are claiming this isn't his laptop. At this point, we're simply waiting to find out what is actually on it... officially. I can say this much, though. There is more evidence that this is a real problem for Hunter than anything that has been presented about Trump. The only question is how much does this affect Joe?

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It’s amazing how when a conservative judge is accused by a person claiming to be a victim of sexual misconduct, you guys become human shields. When a liberal politician’s son is accused by Rudy Giuliani of sexual misconduct and Giuliani has already issued an, “I’m full of [BLEEP],” clarification, you guys have the pitchforks, torches and hangin’ rope all set to go.

Wait, let me guess: Ford was obviously a lie from the start, but Giuliani making a claim about thousands of pictures of a family member involved in an affair, as absurd as the alleged Kavanaugh “gang rape”, is undoubtedly true?

I don't know anyone who said she was lying from the start. I think people started doubting her story when it was so vague and had no corroborating witnesses. Nothing about the Hunter story is vague. It just hasn't been confirmed, which makes me reluctant to completely buy into it at this time. We live in an age of misinformation. 

That said, why isn't the media talking to the store owner? Why aren't we getting updates from the FBI. The only official that has said anything about this, other than Gulliani (who doesn't count), is the director of National Intelligence, who said this has nothing to do with Russia. None of the parties involved are claiming this isn't his laptop. At this point, we're simply waiting to find out what is actually on it... officially. I can say this much, though. There is more evidence that this is a real problem for Hunter than anything that has been presented about Trump. The only question is how much does this affect Joe?

This is where the democrat controlled MSM and social media has been "running interference".  What has been put out should be troubling to many people.  However, social media outlets have been blocking anything related to it, and pretty much all of the MSM with the exception of FOX News has been pretty silent about it.  It's also the reason why Biden's handlers have him hiding in his basement.  The only exception was the claim that it was a Russian disinformation campaign (RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!) designed to interfere with our election.  Authorities have already shot that claim down.

The "child porn" thing is a distraction.  The most troubling thing is that there is evidence that Hunter Biden sold access to the higher/highest level of government to foreign entities.  Whether that evidence is factual or not is the thing, and it's looking like it is.

If what has been put out by the New York Post and FOX News had anything to do with Donald Trump Jr. it would be nonstop headline news everywhere.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I don't know anyone who said she was lying from the start. I think people started doubting her story when it was so vague and had no corroborating witnesses. Nothing about the Hunter story is vague. It just hasn't been confirmed, which makes me reluctant to completely buy into it at this time. We live in an age of misinformation. 

That said, why isn't the media talking to the store owner? Why aren't we getting updates from the FBI. The only official that has said anything about this, other than Gulliani (who doesn't count), is the director of National Intelligence, who said this has nothing to do with Russia. None of the parties involved are claiming this isn't his laptop. At this point, we're simply waiting to find out what is actually on it... officially. I can say this much, though. There is more evidence that this is a real problem for Hunter than anything that has been presented about Trump. The only question is how much does this affect Joe?

This is where the democrat controlled MSM and social media has been "running interference".  What has been put out should be troubling to many people.  However, social media outlets have been blocking anything related to it, and pretty much all of the MSM with the exception of FOX News has been pretty silent about it.  It's also the reason why Biden's handlers have him hiding in his basement.  The only exception was the claim that it was a Russian disinformation campaign (RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!) designed to interfere with our election.  Authorities have already shot that claim down.

The "child porn" thing is a distraction.  The most troubling thing is that there is evidence that Hunter Biden sold access to the higher/highest level of government to foreign entities.  Whether that evidence is factual or not is the thing, and it's looking like it is.

If what has been put out by the New York Post and FOX News had anything to do with Donald Trump Jr. it would be nonstop headline news everywhere.

Trump Jr and Eric are still involved with the Trump organization.  Internationally, a lot of their money seems to come from kleptocrats and international gangsters.  Domestically (and in the UK), it has come from the US taxpayer where the secret service and other support staff stay at these resorts because Trump chooses to stay at them.  And a lot of the rest of the revenue is people buying memberships in the vain hope that they might get close to the President while he's there.

Don't tell me the sons aren't profiting off the dad's government job.

Don't tell me it's all above board.

You could say, "let's leave their kids out of the political discussion".  That would be fine.  In fact I'd prefer that.

But don't tell me the one (hunter) does stuff that the other (jr or Eric) doesn't do.

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This is where the democrat controlled MSM and social media has been "running interference".  What has been put out should be troubling to many people.  However, social media outlets have been blocking anything related to it, and pretty much all of the MSM with the exception of FOX News has been pretty silent about it.  It's also the reason why Biden's handlers have him hiding in his basement.  The only exception was the claim that it was a Russian disinformation campaign (RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!) designed to interfere with our election.  Authorities have already shot that claim down.

The "child porn" thing is a distraction.  The most troubling thing is that there is evidence that Hunter Biden sold access to the higher/highest level of government to foreign entities.  Whether that evidence is factual or not is the thing, and it's looking like it is.

If what has been put out by the New York Post and FOX News had anything to do with Donald Trump Jr. it would be nonstop headline news everywhere.

Trump Jr and Eric are still involved with the Trump organization.  Internationally, a lot of their money seems to come from kleptocrats and international gangsters.  Domestically (and in the UK), it has come from the US taxpayer where the secret service and other support staff stay at these resorts because Trump chooses to stay at them.  And a lot of the rest of the revenue is people buying memberships in the vain hope that they might get close to the President while he's there.

Don't tell me the sons aren't profiting off the dad's government job.

Don't tell me it's all above board.

You could say, "let's leave their kids out of the political discussion".  That would be fine.  In fact I'd prefer that.

But don't tell me the one (hunter) does stuff that the other (jr or Eric) doesn't do.

Triggered.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Trump Jr and Eric are still involved with the Trump organization.  Internationally, a lot of their money seems to come from kleptocrats and international gangsters.  Domestically (and in the UK), it has come from the US taxpayer where the secret service and other support staff stay at these resorts because Trump chooses to stay at them.  And a lot of the rest of the revenue is people buying memberships in the vain hope that they might get close to the President while he's there.

Don't tell me the sons aren't profiting off the dad's government job.

Don't tell me it's all above board.

You could say, "let's leave their kids out of the political discussion".  That would be fine.  In fact I'd prefer that.

But don't tell me the one (hunter) does stuff that the other (jr or Eric) doesn't do.

Triggered.

You wish.

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Triggered.

You wish.

The only one wishing here is you.. You wish that Trump's kids are as corrupt as the Biden's.. You wish that these emails aren't true, and you wish Joe isn't the "Big guy" referenced in these emails.

LOL, like my Grandfather used to tell me.. Wish/want in one hand and [BLEEP] in the other and see which one fills up faster. 

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You wish.

The only one wishing here is you.. You wish that Trump's kids are as corrupt as the Biden's.. You wish that these emails aren't true, and you wish Joe isn't the "Big guy" referenced in these emails.

LOL, like my Grandfather used to tell me.. Wish/want in one hand and [BLEEP] in the other and see which one fills up faster. 

Wait a sec... Do we have the same grandfather?!?!
Cousin? Is that you?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Soooooo money laundering?

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Triggered.

You wish.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You wish.

Speaking of yelling, doesn't Biden seem angry? His old boss seems angry too. Why are these people so angry?

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Soooooo money laundering?

No one reports the news anymore. Imagine the narrative if this was the Trump family? Our Media has to be unbiased or it simply doesn't work, it actually becomes a dangerous weapon. Scandals of this level don't happen unless people who are put in place to inform the American public/protect them from people like this turn a blind eye, don't report, and cover up the truth for them.

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Soooooo money laundering?

No one reports the news anymore. Imagine the narrative if this was the Trump family? Our Media has to be unbiased or it simply doesn't work, it actually becomes a dangerous weapon. Scandals of this level don't happen unless people who are put in place to inform the American public/protect them from people like this turn a blind eye, don't report, and cover up the truth for them.

Family members aren't required to report anything, it's how Joe got his money. There are stories of his extended family having credit cards to access the money for him.

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No one reports the news anymore. Imagine the narrative if this was the Trump family? Our Media has to be unbiased or it simply doesn't work, it actually becomes a dangerous weapon. Scandals of this level don't happen unless people who are put in place to inform the American public/protect them from people like this turn a blind eye, don't report, and cover up the truth for them.

Family members aren't required to report anything, it's how Joe got his money. There are stories of his extended family having credit cards to access the money for him.

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I'm talking about our media "free press" actually reporting.

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Family members aren't required to report anything, it's how Joe got his money. There are stories of his extended family having credit cards to access the money for him.

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I'm talking about our media "free press" actually reporting.

What story would they report?  

Rudy Giuliani claims he received a laptop that someone else claims was turned in for repairs by Joe Biden's son.  And he claims that there are emails on it that implicate Joe Biden in a scandal.  And yet none of the emails are to or from Joe Biden, and none of them implicate him by name.  

Three weeks before the election?  Rudy Giuliani?  The stuff that Giuliani claims is on the laptop is very easy to fake.  It is well known and proven that Rudy hangs out with Russian agents.  And the media does not have access to the laptop.  

This story smells to high heaven. 

But it is not true that the media is not reporting this.  The media is reporting the facts that they have.  It's just that they have very few facts to report on.  

Read this:  

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/22...ive-431022

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And this is where the divide comes... that article is so one-sided. It alludes to Russian disinformation, even though the director of Intelligence says this is not true. It references the Burisma scandal without mentioning the sword affidavit by the prosecuting attorney that says he was investigating Burisma. It says there are only anonymous sources, even though some of Hunter's former business partners have corroborated the story and the emails. One of them, a former LT in the Navy, also says that Hunter referred to his father as the big guy or my chairman, as to not implicate him directly in deals. Now, that's hearsay, but there is more evidence that supports this position than there was to impeach Trump for the quid pro quo. How is it that when the evidence can go one of two ways, the MSM ALWAYS falls to the opposite direction. They aren't even presenting any of that information at all.

Also, as an interesting aside, I'd be curious when that Chinese business that dealt business with Hunter went bankrupt. I know they think that makes the business sound unimportant, but, at least to me, it makes it look like its existence was tied to Administrative support, assuming it failed during the Trump administration. Anyone care to do the research on that so I don't have to? Because, if it failed during the Trump administration it could suggest it that it either existed solely to gain political influence, or it relied on political connections to succeed. The third option, is that it was mismanaged, but I think that is an American way of thinking. Either way, if Politico was doing real research, the correct follow up questions that would be addressed in the article are things like: How much influence did the Chinese communist party have on that business, when was it formed, when was it terminated, what was their primary way of making money. All of that would be useful to know, right?

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Compare the article you linked with this article:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/hunter-bi...f-on-deals

Admittedly, I could understand how one could consider some of this as hearsay, specifically when he says that Hunter referred to Joe Biden as the Big Guy. You essentially having a witness saying Hunter said the Big Guy is Joe Biden. That would be inadmissible in court unless Hunter confirmed it. He said he saw first hand Hunter needing his dad to "sign off" on business decisions, but doesn't give an example where he saw that in person. He relies on what was said by Hunter. That said, this is still more damning than the evidence brought against Trump for his impeachment, and the people on this board that are dismissing it outright are not considering the mounting evidence.

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You are really bad at this.

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Yes, right now questions about Hunter are framed as questions of evidence. Was that really his computer, was it tampered with, who was he talking to with that computer, etc.
These are not at all comparable to last year's questions of impeachment.
The impeachment questions didn't hinge on evidence. There, no one disputed that funds from our government to Ukraine were delayed, and no one disputed that Trump wanted Ukraine's government to produce statements or evidence to turn the previous investigation into Trump's ties to Russia back on the Democrats. We don't need to discuss the evidence of that, Trump's people admitted it.
The question was, were Trump's actions a legitimate use of his power, or was he abusing his power. That's a subjective question. It's a matter of opinion, not evidence.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.