(12-06-2020, 06:45 PM)enigma Wrote:

(12-06-2020, 06:29 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: Everyone here is so ready for the Jags to leave Jax. I don't think there is any example of a 1-franchise city (NHL, MLB, NBA or NFL) losing that team in the last 75 years. Granted the Jags have not been the best advertisement for the city over the past 20 years, but it is better than never being in any national discussion about well anything.

Don't get me wrong, the city would need to do its best to maximize the terms and make them as solid as possible, but letting the Jags walk away out of spite will probably be regretted.

Though I'm also the one who thinks they should stop trying to do all this in and near downtown. Jax has been trying to redevelop downtown for 50 years and make it attractive to people. It won't work. People who stay and move to Jacksonville like the parks, the beach, the open spaces, etc. Stop trying to be like every other city and build up whatever positives are already there.

Downtown Jax has not been "redeveloped" because of the no-can-do'ers continuously shutting down any semblance of such. 

The parks, beaches, and open spaces will not be going anywhere if we develop Lot J, Downtown, and/or the Shipyards. 

Unless you mean you like open spaces like our currently decrepit Shipyards.

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(12-06-2020, 06:40 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: All those cities are well established and well known by a national audience outside of sports. Jacksonville should be looking more at places like Oklahoma City and aspiring to places to Indianapolis in regards to trying develop with more business involvement and GDP growth.

Also, Lot J is intending to mimic the same impact and model as the Power and Light District in Kansas City.

There are different methods of redeveloping and the Lot J plan only works if they fill those 400 apartments that the rendering photos made look like a college dorm from the early 90's. I think trying to get people to move downtown right now is foolhardy, especially ones that didn't look all that appealing.

Also I'm not saying don't invest in downtown, but all those no-can-doers are also saying no because they view this as if they spend money downtown, they won't spend it on the other areas. And they think it will be a waste because they expect the Jags to leave anyways. They see it ending up like the Skyway, a money pit. If the plan was more inclusive by also suggesting plans to other parts/aspects of the city that aren't as dependent as one part of town, they may win more votes and get more approval

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