(11-27-2020, 02:29 AM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:

(11-25-2020, 11:25 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: So you are satisfied with this roster after 7 years of Caldwell at the helm?

He was at the helm for 4 years and the roster was good in 2017, his worst first round pick (fournette) was likely not his choice. He actually makes decent trades lately, I think he has improved in that regard. The current state of the roster is because of the talent Coughlin ran off. If we didn’t have all our actual pro-bowl level players on other teams we would be better. The fact that Caldwell has drafted multiple pro-bowl level players and found many starting level players actually makes me think he is good. We couldn’t get any receivers for years before Caldwell. 

The only real knock on Caldwell is Bortles and maybe tackles.  We tried for too long with him and he just wasn’t the guy. Caldwell hasn’t found a franchise quarterback yet and I think that’s valid. But we also haven’t had the best development for our QBs. If Caldwell gets the 1st overall and gets a clear cut QB to pick I think the opinion of him will change.

On Marrone, I don’t think he’s the best coach, but he’s not as bad as we look right now. It’s not that I think he couldn’t be improved on, it’s just I don’t think the jags can get that guy. Would belichek  come to the jags? Probably not. Would shanahan? I doubt it. We get the B-tier. I think our only hope is to promote a guy and hope he translate. Jay Gruden is probably as close to known commodity as we can get

I disagree on us getting B-tier coaches. There are only 32 of these jobs in the world. Our owner has proven that he's not just going to fire you after a bad season. Now sure are we going to get Shanahan to leave the 9ers or Belicheck to leave the Pats? No. But could we have gotten Shanahan from the Falcons? Yes we could've. My point is with an owner who doesn't just fire after a year, thats desirable for job security.

As far as caldwell...he may not be the worst but the dudes had his chances and hadn't shown much. Sure he's had some hits....and some misses. You pointed out we haven't had the best development for our QBs...the GM is still at fault for that. He hired the HC and the HC hires down...if the HC hires bad the GM fires the HC and does something to fix it...he didn't. He brought in Joeckel and failed then Bottles and failed kept Gus for to long. Sorry the guy has had his hits but every failure can be traced back to him. And any up and coming "Shanahan" would love to come to this team with 2 1s and 2 2s with a good cap situation...any gm should also want this job.

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