(12-17-2020, 10:15 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(12-17-2020, 08:48 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: All other OSU QBs don’t matter. Don’t you like Trask? How are all those other Florida QBs doing?

All those Texas Tech QBs were terrible in the NFL..... until Mahomes. Where a prospect played is irrelevant because there is no QB school. Maybe OU and Riley are the closest but as of now, go look at the NFL and where those dudes went to college. It’s from everywhere. Rodgers and the air raid (people used this against him like you are Fields) Brees and PURDUE.... Purdue! Wilson and Wisconsin, Brady and Michigan.... 

You can have you convictions about a player but using their school is an extremely flawed point. Be better.

He was specifically pointing to OSU"s system. I was answering his comments about how OSU could be a one read and run scheme and how those past QB's have fared in the NFL. If indeed that is the type of system they employ, those quarterbacks coming from that school are not equipped to enter the NFL and be starters. With Florida, it's not the system. It was the actual players and their talent level.

As far as Texas Tech, they did used to run a gimmicky system, but when Mahomes went there it had turned into a more pro-style friendly offense. That made his adjustment to learning NFL football a lot quicker. I believe he would've had a much harder time adjusting in the NFL had they still used a system like Mike Leach employed. Kliff Kingsbury came to Texas Tech and used a different variation of the "air raid" offense that helped Mahomes become a better vertical passer. Leach used a lot of bubble screens and short passes where the WR's were expected to make a lot of yards after the catch. Kingsbury's system relied more on the QB to make plays with his arm. Leach used a lot of "noodle armed" QB's who could still run his scheme with ease, but in Kingsbury's variation, you needed a strong armed QB to be efficient. He found success with Mahomes and now with Murray. Both had baseball backgrounds and strong arms. 

As far as schools, I agree that they should have no bearing on how a player will project to the NFL, but even you have to admit that some college teams run such gimmicky offensive schemes that it makes it much harder for players to adjust to playing a more conventional system in the NFL. That was my point. It wasn't about the school, but about the schemes that they run. I assumed people would understand this concept, but I guess I had to spell it out.

I'm a Texas Tech alumni. Kliff has so much success with Mahomes that he got fired.

Kingsbury's scheme is absolutely a gimmicky air raid offense, and it's one reason I am neither a Murray believer nor someone who thinks Kingsbury will have any success as a head coach.  Tech QBs always put up video game numbers and get figured out by season's end.  Sound familiar?

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