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Zach Wilson

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(This post was last modified: 12-17-2020, 06:37 PM by TheO-LineMatters.)

(12-17-2020, 01:40 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(12-17-2020, 12:30 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard on this board. There are definitely certain systems that make it way more difficult for QB's to make the jump to the NFL. To say that they don't, is just ignorant. Has there ever been a successful NFL QB that comes from a college flexbone scheme? No, because as a scheme it is so different and QB's from such systems basically have to re-learn how to play QB when coming to the NFL. Schemes absolutely do matter. Some schemes are easier than others to transition from the college ranks to the NFL. 

Yes pro-style QB's flame out too, but when you have a really talented QB in a pro-stlyle system, he has a distinct advantage coming into the NFL over a really talented QB who is coming from a gimmicky offensive scheme. That's just common sense!

Schemes matter or else we'd have more triple option QB's in the NFL. Yes, scouting the QB position is the hardest in sports. Not only do you have to have the physical tools, but you also have to be a born leader and you have to make quick decisions and instincts for what is going on around you. IMO, it is the hardest position to play in all of sports.
Dawg. Schemes don’t matter for translating to NFL success. If they did, anyone coming from the air raid or spread offenses wouldn’t work. QBs come from all sorts of colleges and schemes.

Look at how many spread QBs have succeeded when just a few years ago, people said they won’t last. 

This “pro style translates better” may have worked a while ago but look at how many NFL offenses have drastically changed their offense to fit today’s college QBs.

It does matter. If it doesn't matter, where are all the triple option QB's in the NFL? As far as the air raid offense, maybe at one time it was considered gimmicky, but now NFL teams are running their own variations of it and it's becoming fairly normal. As the NFL adopts certain schemes the stigma on them goes away, but there are still college schemes that teams run, which basically limit any progression a QB may show as a passer. NFL teams stay away from QB's who are in such schemes, so it does matter when translating to the NFL. You're stuck on the air raid or spread offenses and those two are commonplace in the NFL now. You still have to go through your progressions as a passer in those schemes. They aren't one read offenses.

(12-17-2020, 02:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: My whole point is that QBs come from everywhere. All different schools, offenses, schemes, height, arm strength..... so ultimately, none of that really matters because if we knew the answer as to which one worked in the NFL, teams wouldn’t miss so often on QBs.

And honestly, none of this matters if we don’t get the right HC or OC next year. Wilson or Fiels.... it won’t matter. They need to be set up for success.

Not from triple option schemes.
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Zach Wilson - by iam - 12-13-2020, 04:36 AM
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RE: Zach Wilson - by Cleatwood - 12-16-2020, 12:11 PM
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RE: Zach Wilson - by Kane - 12-16-2020, 03:32 PM
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RE: Zach Wilson - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-16-2020, 03:40 PM
RE: Zach Wilson - by Eric1 - 12-16-2020, 07:27 PM
RE: Zach Wilson - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-16-2020, 07:35 PM
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RE: Zach Wilson - by Cleatwood - 12-16-2020, 08:11 PM
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