(02-24-2021, 04:21 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(02-24-2021, 04:03 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I don't understand how anyone who has actually been watching Jaguars football for the last 3 years would agree to such a ridiculous idea? PFF watches every play of every OT in the league and scores them for the season. Cam Robinson graded a measly 61.8 and Jawaan Taylor was even worse with 56.5 that is among the lowest combo scores in the league. To put this in perspective, the Bengals and their fans are dying to draft Penei Sewell, so they can move Jonah Williams to RT and rid themselves of current RT Bobby Hart who has been a mess. Hart scored a 66.3 last season. That is significantly better than both of our OT's and he's horrible! Why would we tag an OT that has been so bad? That is a loser's mentality. 

There are at least a dozen OT's in this draft that I believe would be upgrades over Robinson. I'm not saying all of them would be great players. I'm just saying Robinson and Taylor have set the bar so low, that at least a dozen rookie OT's would be better than them. Don't get me wrong, I don't just want an upgrade, I'd like to get a franchise LT, but even an upgrade would be better than the garbage we have out there currently at OT. Both Robinson and Taylor are slow footed and slow to get out of their stances and regularly get beaten off the edge. Ideally, we would sign Trent Williams and select competition for Taylor on the right side, but if we don't, I fully believe we can find either a franchise LT or at least a major upgrade at the LT position via the draft.

I disagree, I don't see a dozen LTs in this draft being better than Robinson next year.  I don't even think there will be 5 better.  Robinson and Taylor did play poorly last year but I think they both play better this upcoming year with Meyer there.  I hope we get Williams as well though and I'd be good with getting Okung as well

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I definitely see many rookie OT's being better. Robinson's low blocking scores prove it. Cam Robinson is just bad. He is what he is at this point. He's had time to get better and he hasn't. Sometimes you just have to look at a player and realize he is what he is and accept reality. 

This is what baffles me. Please explain why you feel that a different head coach is somehow gonna make Robinson and Taylor better? They are gonna have the same position coach that they've had all along (Warhop) and they will still possess the same heavy-footedness that they've always had, as you can't waive  magic wand and make that go away. What is gonna be different about this coming season? Is it just blind optimism? That seems like the only explanation to me. 

In past seasons we've done the same thing over and over. We select a player fairly high in the draft and we hold onto him way too long, hoping year after year he's gonna get better and he never does. I wanna break that cycle. Sometimes you have to recognize a player is just not what you thought he was gonna be and move on. The faster you move on, the quicker you can fix the problem. Tagging a bad player, because you fear you may not find a better guy in the draft is something our past regimes would do. This is a very deep OT class and we have the #25, #33 and #45 picks. I am beyond optimistic that we can find a major upgrade at LT.

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(02-24-2021, 05:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(02-24-2021, 04:04 PM)Upper Wrote: If 1010xl and flgators are on one side, far more often than not you want to be on the opposite side.

Shots fired!

Dude, flgators is pretty knowledgeable.  Yeah he pushes his Gators, but I think his takes are pretty good overall.  I can't recall having strong disagreements with him on a guy's talent or ability.

I think most of the participants in this thread are good-not that I am in any real position to adversely judge at this stage.

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(02-24-2021, 04:10 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Personally, after hearing Meyer talk about wanting to improve team speed, I don't think Freiermuth is a good fit. He has great hands and is a decent blocker, but he looks very slow on tape. If we were to draft a TE, I believe we would probably look for a faster option like Hunter Long, Kenny Yeboah or Matt Bushman (assuming he heals back to 100%).

I don't see the slowness on tape.

To me, he shows as much speed and athletic ability as Gesicki, but he's bigger.

I certainly do. It looks like he's running in slow motion. Gesicki looked much faster, but Freiermuth has MUCH better hands.

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