(02-07-2021, 05:14 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote:

(02-07-2021, 12:50 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: When Republicans choose to fight fire with fire, it will become fascism. Only the power of the state can stop the spread of this nonsense, but then the country loses it's values in the process. This nation is at a crossroads.

Explain this further please? Thanks. I assume you mean states need to take a stand against the federal government. 

The problem is conservatives don't even see their opponents for what they are. They need to understand the progressives have no standards, will cross any line and sell their souls to the lowest bidder to get what they want. That's what they're dealing with, not the democratic party of my father-in-law's day (he's 72.)

No. I am saying that it took fascism to directly fight communism in the 20th century. In Germany and Italy, communists were doing exactly what you see here, albeit less polished. Normal citizens grew tired of communists attacking their patriotism, heroes, and traditions, so they began to rise up against it. This frustration ultimately led to the creation of fascism, othering, and empowered the state to ruthlessly go after anyone advocating for communism. Mussolini and Hitler took the disaffected and turned them into an army that would combat the communists. Without that physical presence that overwhelmed and drove communist undergound, they would have continued to push their ideology onto the masses by force and intimidation.

A democracy with principles that limit the power of government can not use the power of the state to subvert Marxist ideas, which is why citizens can be slow-cooked. Once progressives control the institutions that control the narrative, they can silence their ideological opponents. It just takes time and money. You can't do that against a state willing to use it's power to destroy them. 

So, in our country, you have seen Marxists first go after the universities, then entertainment, then journalism. Studies are clear that leftists show extreme preference in new hires based on ideology.  This is such common knowledge we take it for granted, and even the most ardent democrats don't deny this. Once they control the narrative, they get to shape the mythology that shapes policy (philosophy introduced by Gramci and Sorrel). You're either on board with that policy, or your the villain in the myth they created... white supremacist, climate denier, nazi, homophobe. One becomes powerless to defend themselves against those accusations because they have no ability to influence the narrative. It's simple. So, leftists fear the STATE. They can work around the ideology.

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