(02-08-2021, 10:43 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: The point Mikey, is that fringe groups can overthrow a system. It doesn't always need to be violent. Stay on point.

You refuse to acknowledge that a fringe group of people want to fundamentally alter the fabric of American society and government. You refuse to acknowledge they have the power, even though it's demonstrably true (just look at the role Hollywood has played in shaping our culture). A small group can do amazing things when they control the narrative, and that was and is the long time goal of that fringe group. If the right fights fire with fire, we will lose American values. If the right maintains it's principles, the left will eventually overwhelm it. I believe we are close to that tipping point. 4 years? 12 years? Doesn't matter. Change is coming. The fringe will bring it. The majority in the middle will just wonder how it came to be like this. Well, I'm telling you.

Fringe groups cannot overthrow the system, unless the military and police forces decide to either fully participate in the overthrow, or stand aside and let it happen.
There are a lot of lessons you can take from Jan 6, that's just one.  
You need to acknowledge that that day was as fragile as our republic has been since 1865, and, that it was "your side" that did it.  Then we can have a firm basis for conversation about threats to the republic.

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(02-08-2021, 10:14 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(02-08-2021, 10:00 AM)mikesez Wrote: January 6 was the closest thing we've had to an overthrow of our system of government, at the federal level, since 1861.

Overthrow or brief interruption?

What do you mean "brief interruption"?
It actually was a brief interruption. Thank God.
But it was an attempt at a permanent interruption. An attempt at an overthrow.
Is that unclear? Do you dispute that?
Mitch McConnell doesn't.

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