(02-11-2021, 07:55 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(02-10-2021, 11:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Mike is an authoritarian lackey. He still believes the MSM who has a PROVEN track record of lying about Trump. He doesn't care about facts. Pence calling in the national guard fits his narrative. It was packaged for him to readily digest, so he eats it up, and regurgitates it. Without questioning it. How many times do you need to be lied to, bro?

Look, is there a chance Pence called the national guard? Sure, I guess. But we are talking about Mike freaking Pence. The guy that wouldn't turn on Trump when Pelosi unconstitutionally suggested he do so. Pence. The guy who wouldn't challenge the electoral votes even though Trump told him to do so. Pence is basically the walking embodiment of rule-following. I guess he could have just been like, "[BLEEP] it," I'm going in.

How about, if I can say there is some chance, however small, that Pence broke rank for the first time in his life and made an executive decision on his own, can you just admit there is a chance the petty, lying media just fed you another [BLEEP] story about Trump? Can you give me something today, Mikey? Or am I going to have to read your response that will probably go something like, "Um, actually, Pence knew he had to do this to save lies, and the if the media were lying, people clearly wouldn't watch it anymore, duh."

You didn't do what I asked.
I don't care how likely you think it is that Pence or Miller did something Trump didn't want them to do.
I asked you, and any other Trumper, if it was proven that Trump didn't want to call the NG and someone else did it for him, would you finally agree with me, that the Senate should convict and Trump should never hold office again?

Sure. If it was proven that Trump wanted to let the Capitol be destroyed, you guys can impeach the guy that was already removed from office. Now you go. If they fail to prove that Trump wouldn't authorize the use of the national guard, you gonna admit this is a stupid waste of time? Go one further for me, just for [BLEEP] and giggles. If they prove that Trump authorized the NG and was actively trying to figure out why they weren't deploying, are you going to admit that the new sources you frequent are a bunch of lying hacks with a very partisan agenda? Will you be capable of carrying that knowledge forward in a way that makes your arguments less [BLEEP]? 

As to the impeachment itself, not sure it's unconstitutional. I think if a crime were egregious enough, you could do it to make a statement, especially if proceeding began before they left office. However, I don't think any of this is being done for that reason. It's theatrics. It's being done because they hate the man. Impeachment and removal was always their goal (which is easy enough to prove), and they can spin this enough to make it seem like they were justified in hating him. Don't think you're going to get any evidence of anything. But, sure... have your fantasy.

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