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Official Baalke Confirmed as GM (merged)
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So we go from Coughlin to now Urban having full control with a lame yes man gm? Is this much better? IDK
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (01-20-2021, 12:46 PM)nhiverson Wrote: So we go from Coughlin to now Urban having full control with a lame yes man gm? Is this much better? IDK It's kind-of like that. Aside from Khan repeatedly saying he'd be more involved than he was during Coughlin's tenure. Nonetheless, Khan is rolling the dice that Meyer (along with additional checks and balances) will be better than Coughlin was in a similar role. Another key difference is the fact that the "czar" in this scenario is the HC and not an executive. It's a more streamlined approach as the "czar" won't be potentially in disagreement w/ the coach on roster moves.
If Baalke gets all the "blame" for "ruining" the 49ers, then he also deserves credit for their early 2010's run. Which was a good run and one play away from a championship.
I am not incredibly thrilled about being in-house, but in his defense, he was only here a few months. So he was not here long enough to absorb the "stink". Let's see how it plays out. (01-20-2021, 11:30 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I'd imagine Balke will be there to crunch numbers related to salary cap and duration of contracts. His drafts in SF are less than stellar To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams. Yes he had misses. But considering he added to two Super Bowl teams, I'm not getting the hostility here. Not completely. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote:(01-20-2021, 11:30 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: I'd imagine Balke will be there to crunch numbers related to salary cap and duration of contracts. His drafts in SF are less than stellar Look at his entire 2012 Draft. Yikes. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(01-20-2021, 01:37 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote:(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams. To be fair, most of his misses came between the 5th-7th rounds.. Lots of them to be honest, with some 3rds-4ths sprinkled in there. I know everyone wants a GM who can find hidden talent in the deeper rounds, but his drafts look pretty average. ![[Image: SaKG4.gif]](https://s12.gifyu.com/images/SaKG4.gif)
(01-20-2021, 10:54 AM)Bullseye Wrote:(01-19-2021, 10:24 PM)Tank Commander Wrote: That wasn't Baalke. He only ruined the 49ers.See, this is what I'm not getting. The critics would argue that the early success was due to players mostly acquired prior to him being GM and the team just got worse the longer Baalke ran things. Let's just take the record of 51-44-1. It doesn't sound that bad. Hypothetically, if it went as follows, I think most people would be pleased: Season 1: 2-14 Season 2: 5-11 Season 3: 8-8 Season 4: 12-4 Season 5: 11-4-1 Season 6: 13-3 However, that's not what happened. The reality is reversed. His actual records went as follows: Season 1: 13-3 Season 2: 11-4-1 Season 3: 12-4 Season 4: 8-8 Season 5: 5-11 Season 6: 2-14 That's the concern.
Some of you guys just want big name guys. Would you rather have Caldwell back ? Geez
I’m fine with it. We’re getting Lawrence and another 1st round pick. Oh no we got Trent at GM....we’re gonna go 1-15 again
(01-20-2021, 01:44 PM)WingerDinger Wrote:(01-20-2021, 01:37 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote: Look at his entire 2012 Draft. Yikes. AJ Jenkins and LaMichael James were concerning reaches, considered such even at the time by most (and considered even worse in hindsight). I think most considered Jenkins a 3rd rounder, and James a 4th. Yet those were their first and second picks of a draft where they didn't have a lot of draft capital to begin with. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(01-20-2021, 08:35 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: He does have a leg up on all the other candidates when it comes to evaluating the roster, since he has been here for a year already. That'll give UM a big head start on roster evaluation. Evaluating the roster? Let me see .... 1-15 Most Players Suck There's my evaluation.
I love the panic from everyone. No one can give it a chance. Let's see what happens before we obviously go winless for the next 2-3 years. (According to you couch GM's)
I'm still convinced that Baalke appointed as GM is a pure formality..
This is strictly Meyer's team and I'm pretty sure he'll have the final say in the drafts..
(01-20-2021, 01:37 PM)The Eleventh Doctor Wrote:(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams. That happens, for any number of reasons. If a GM is hitting about 40% of his picks, he's doing exceptionally well. Hopefully for us, there won't be any versions of that 2012 draft. For me, those Super bowl appearances shape my perspective of Baalke. I am, however, soliciting the input of some 49ers fans. I know they are less than enthused about his stay there. I would like some details from them as to why that is. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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Hey guys let’s see what Baalk can do ? All the negativity is making my head hurt.
(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams. Much like Caldwell, he averaged about one good player a draft. And also much like Caldwell you kind of have to stretch what is considered a good player to count. Not nearly good enough.
Patriots drafted Brady in the 6th round. Every GM in the league should be ashamed. It’s a crap shoot. Some of you guys want to hire guys that have hit the draft lottery and it doesn’t work like that.
We got the QB now, the rest will be a lot easier. (01-20-2021, 02:14 PM)Upper Wrote:(01-20-2021, 01:31 PM)Bullseye Wrote: To be clear, he drafted starters/catalysts for two (2) Super Bowl teams. Then how are the contributors to the Super Bowl teams explained? Were Aldon Smith, Eric Reid, and DeForest Buckner NOT good players? Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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I really think he's the interim GM. There's just not enough time to hire a coaching staff, evaluate the roster, and get into free agency and the draft PLUS go through day after day of interviewing GM candidates.
I think he'll be evaluated after one year and if he doesn't measure up, let go at that time.
He did draft for the Niners in 2010 as well which was probably his best draft. I am not estatic at all about the move, but i can”t imagine there were a lot of potential Gm’s chomping at the bit to play 3rd fiddle to Urban and Khan.
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