(02-12-2021, 02:46 AM)Predator Wrote:

(02-11-2021, 02:03 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: I think that you have been listening to Dave Caldwell too much.  You appear to be under the impression that a rebuild takes many years.  NFL stands for Not For Long.  Teams can quickly turn it around in the NFL and the Jaguars, in particular, are very well positioned to do so.  

One thing that can slow down a rebuild is a bad salary cap situation.  That doesn't apply here.  It's actually the opposite.  As of right now, not only do they not have a problem, but they are the team farthest under the salary cap and have virtually no dead money.  We don't need another 1 to 2 years to clear the cap like many so called "rebuilding" teams.  It's already done here.

Second, the lack of ability to obtain a franchise quarterback can also hamper a rebuild.  Sometimes teams aren't drafting high enough to get a top quality quarterback or it's a draft when none are available.  While there's always some risk to any draft pick, Trevor Lawrence is the closest thing to a sure thing at quarterback in years.

Third, the draft is also key to rebuilding.  Not only have the Jaguars not traded away future picks which sometimes holds back a rebuild, but we have a ton of extra picks.  With extra picks in the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th rounds, it's almost like we are getting two years worth of draft picks at once.  That speeds up the rebuild.

The way I look at is that with our salary cap position, we should be able to get at least 3 quality starters and maybe more in free agency.  I also always consider 1st and 2nd picks to be starting talent.  We also have the very top pick in the third round which should be considered too.  With two first rounders, two second rounders and the top pick in the third round, that's potential for 5 new starters.  Add that to the 3 free agents and we're looking at 8 new starters.  That even assumes that we don't find a diamond in the rough with all of our late round picks or that some young player (Bartch, etc.) doesn't develop and win a starting role.  Keep in mind that these aren't just 8 random positions.  We can basically go in and upgrade the 8 weakest positions on the team.  You then mix our new players with 4 former pro-bowlers, James Robinson who should have made the pro-bowl, Myles Jack who arguably also should have made the pro-bowl plus young talent such as a top 10 cornerback in C.J. Henderson and early second rounder Shenault, etc and you have the makeup of a good starting roster.  Between free agency, the extra late draft picks and first option on waiver wire players, our depth should also be significantly improved.  You also have to factor in that this team incredibly had 16 rookies on their opening day roster last year plus a large number of other young players in prominent roles.  Many of those players will improve with experience.  Hopefully better coaching will also make a difference to the team in 2021.  The bottom line is that this shouldn't be a prolonged rebuild.  I don't think we'll have a great record next year due to the high amount of youth, but there's no reason this team can't be good the following year.  If this team isn't highly competitive for a playoff spot in 2022, the front office did not do its job.

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I am talking about being for signing  24 year old probowler. You are really overthinking this.

You're going to have to give up at least one 1st round pick, plus multiple other picks to get Brown and still have to pay him $18m++ per year.

Williams you only have to pay him $18m++ per and call it a day. No draft picks involved.

If they were both FAs, of course you go with the young guy, but this team doesn't need to be giving away multiple day 1-2 draft picks AND top money for 1 player when this team needs help all over the place. We need to keep and use those day 1-2 picks.

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