The socialist movement was designed to be a religion. Carry on.

So was Trumpism and it succeeded so well, it's followers didn't even see it coming or know that they are part of it.

Socialism in america hasn't had a religious aspect since Eugene Debs left the scene.  But the original socialist movement in Europe was meant to either reform or replace both the church and the state.
Like you, I hate Trump for co-opting religion, but I also recognize that good movements have had to co-opt or ally with religious leaders.  MLK Jr's civil rights movement is the most recent case in point.  Trump tried to co-opt christianity for himself, in my opinion.  I'd find it in my heart to forgive him if I saw a good, godly goal behind it.  Maybe some do but I don't.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

While it’s true both sides hurl invective, the left has a much larger platform and open acceptance for their taunts.
This article is a prime example. Blatantly comparing Trump supporters to Islamic terrorists and Nazis is de rigueur. Even after they’ve performed an act of kindness.

There will be no denouncement from those on the left who want to meet in the middle. They’ll simply quietly agree with this woman’s shrill thoughts and then look at the right as obstinate for not extending an olive branch.

It would be easy to reconcile with the left if they weren’t such obvious hypocrites.

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I think one big reason we remain divided is because the impression each side has of the other comes from their own media.  The right wing media tells right wingers what the left is doing and saying, and the left wing media tells left wingers what the right wingers are doing and saying.  

And people go to their "comfort media" and get pounded all day about how evil the other side is.

I'm a moderate.  You people, left and right, need to stop hurling insults at each other and start talking about actual issues.

And also, understand that your "comfort media" is misleading you for profit. 

I voted for Biden, but I have friends who voted for Trump.  I also know someone who said she could never be friends with a Republican.  That's ridiculous.

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While it’s true both sides hurl invective, the left has a much larger platform and open acceptance for their taunts.
This article is a prime example. Blatantly comparing Trump supporters to Islamic terrorists and Nazis is de rigueur. Even after they’ve performed an act of kindness.

There will be no denouncement from those on the left who want to meet in the middle. They’ll simply quietly agree with this woman’s shrill thoughts and then look at the right as obstinate for not extending an olive branch.

It would be easy to reconcile with the left if they weren’t such obvious hypocrites.

Again, I've seen this done by both sides. Not just the left.

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I think one big reason we remain divided is because the impression each side has of the other comes from their own media.  The right wing media tells right wingers what the left is doing and saying, and the left wing media tells left wingers what the right wingers are doing and saying.  

And people go to their "comfort media" and get pounded all day about how evil the other side is.

I'm a moderate.  You people, left and right, need to stop hurling insults at each other and start talking about actual issues.

Agreed 1000%. This is the main problem in America today. The media feeds off this rift. The news is no longer the news anymore. It's just a bunch of propaganda feeding the most radical people on both sides of the aisle. Nobody wants to hear real news anymore. They wanna be fed what they wanna hear, so they are flocking to bias news sites.

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This article isn’t in, supposedly, right or left media. Have MSN and the Bozeman paper openly declared themselves leftist media? We know the real answer, don’t we (wink).

Can someone please show me an article published in a supposedly mainstream publication which compares the left directly to murderous regimes and practices?

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If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

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If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

You’re being childishly simplistic. 

If you truly want ideological harmony, then this woman’s ideas would be roundly denounced, or at least the opportunity would be offered by this media company for rebuttal. Neither will happen.

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If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

You’re being childishly simplistic. 

If you truly want ideological harmony, then this woman’s ideas would be roundly denounced, or at least the opportunity would be offered by this media company for rebuttal. Neither will happen.

You're basically asking for an apology.
American culture in the 2010s and 2020s views apologies as weakness and stupidity. Don't get me wrong, our culture is in error here and I hope we change back.
But we have to overlook and forgive certain wrongs regardless of if apologies are given.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

You’re being childishly simplistic. 

If you truly want ideological harmony, then this woman’s ideas would be roundly denounced, or at least the opportunity would be offered by this media company for rebuttal. Neither will happen.

You're basically asking for an apology.
American culture in the 2010s and 2020s views apologies as weakness and stupidity. Don't get me wrong, our culture is in error here and I hope we change back.
But we have to overlook and forgive certain wrongs regardless of if apologies are given.

In no way did I intimate that an apology is in order. What I suggested was a denunciation of this woman’s harmful words from the left, or an opportunity for rebuttal. Either easily achieved, yet neither will be allowed.

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If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

Obviously, in any relationship, both parties contribute to some disfunction in the relationship, even if it's co-dependence. That doesn't mean both parties are equally complicit in deterioration of the relationship. Until liberals reject the platforms and tenants of the progressives, this issue is going to get worse. This is no longer a conservatives vs. liberals argument. Only the uninformed believe that. Leftists are a different beast entirely, and until enough people wake up to what's going on, they are going to continue to demonize their ideological opponents. You can't see that, dude? You can't see the concerted effort to obliterate the conservative position? 

The goal for progressives, is to move the Overton window as far left as possible. Crush the right in this country, then deal with the liberals. Liberals find them useful for now, but for how long? If you listen to what the progressives are saying, they are trying to push the parties into liberal vs progressive, then they will try to snuff out the liberals. Global socialism is the only answer. The ends justify the means. Political power is the only goal. That's radical. You will never find unity with that group, yet they are increasingly given a voice in the Democratic party.

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I guess what I'm saying is, if you can't see this, then you are uninformed and contributing to this divide.

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If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

I think there is a difference between an "emotional" divide and a divide caused by a polar opposite of opinions than a divide that ends in violence or writing actual published articles about hating your neighbor for cleaning snow off your driveway. Liberals are responsible for the latter 9/10 times.

For instance, I can be cordial with a set of adults who think people born with a penis should be able to participate in women's sports, but I, nor my children would ever hang out with them.

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If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

You’re being childishly simplistic. 

If you truly want ideological harmony, then this woman’s ideas would be roundly denounced, or at least the opportunity would be offered by this media company for rebuttal. Neither will happen.

Those damn Jews are being so difficult not letting us throw them in the ovens.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If anyone poses a response in this thread that includes something like, "but the liberals" or "but the conservatives," then you are part of the problem. You have to acknowledge that this rift is caused by both sides. Not just one or the other. If you can't see this then you are biased and contributing to this divide.

I think there is a difference between an "emotional" divide and a divide caused by a polar opposite of opinions than a divide that ends in violence or writing actual published articles about hating your neighbor for cleaning snow off your driveway. Liberals are responsible for the latter 9/10 times.

For instance, I can be cordial with a set of adults who think people born with a penis should be able to participate in women's sports, but I, nor my children would ever hang out with them.

Here is where the bifurcation occurs. While you believe it is acceptable to be differing yet cordial, the left believes it is fully acceptable to paint you as a hater in the public forum while simultaneously blocking your opportunity for rebuttal. 

It’s akin to an army lobbing shells on the opposing side while simultaneously criticizing them for not calling a truce.

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I think one big reason we remain divided is because the impression each side has of the other comes from their own media.  The right wing media tells right wingers what the left is doing and saying, and the left wing media tells left wingers what the right wingers are doing and saying.  

And people go to their "comfort media" and get pounded all day about how evil the other side is.

I'm a moderate.  You people, left and right, need to stop hurling insults at each other and start talking about actual issues.

Bwwwahahaha, it's funny all you self-righteous "moderates" didn't feel that way until some guy from the Right started acting back at the left the way they've acted for generations. NOW it's suddenly "both sides" are the problem. Nonsense.

George W. Bush is probably the nicest man you'll ever meet. Called him dumb and Hitler.
Romney, a man who literally adopted black children into this family? Racist tax evader.
McCain, the guy who gets pilloried by his own side for reaching across the aisle. Warmonger.

Nah, save that "both sides" crap for these moron kids who don't know what the past was like.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Listen to yourselves.
Did Limbaugh ever give his opponents an opportunity for rebuttal?
Does Hannity?
The right has been dishing it on talk radio for 30 years!
Now for 10 years social media is serving it back and y'all whine.
Thought we were tougher than that.
If you can't take what someone is saying, ignore them.
If you don't like the editorial decisions of a social media platform, find a new one.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Listen to yourselves.
Did Limbaugh ever give his opponents an opportunity for rebuttal?
Does Hannity?
The right has been dishing it on talk radio for 30 years!
Now for 10 years social media is serving it back and y'all whine.
Thought we were tougher than that.

If you’ll notice, the MSM was addressed, not clear opinion platforms.

Keep flailing. You’ll hit on something eventually.

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Listen to yourselves.
Did Limbaugh ever give his opponents an opportunity for rebuttal?
Does Hannity?
The right has been dishing it on talk radio for 30 years!
Now for 10 years social media is serving it back and y'all whine.
Thought we were tougher than that.

If you’ll notice, the MSM was addressed, not clear opinion platforms.

Keep flailing. You’ll hit on something eventually.

We've also had to deal with people who call themselves "Republican" desperately denying that they are no such thing even as every thought that comes out of their pieholes attacks the Right and defends the Left.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Listen to yourselves.
Did Limbaugh ever give his opponents an opportunity for rebuttal?
Does Hannity?
The right has been dishing it on talk radio for 30 years!
Now for 10 years social media is serving it back and y'all whine.
Thought we were tougher than that.

If you’ll notice, the MSM was addressed, not clear opinion platforms.

Keep flailing. You’ll hit on something eventually.

And that was a semi-satirical, personal opinion piece that happened to run in the LA Times. It is also marked as opinion.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

If you’ll notice, the MSM was addressed, not clear opinion platforms.

Keep flailing. You’ll hit on something eventually.

And that was a semi-satirical, personal opinion piece that happened to run in the LA Times. It is also marked as opinion.

I can’t wait to see the LA Times run a “semi-satirical opinion piece” denigrating the hypocrisy of the left.

You hold your breath first.

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If you’ll notice, the MSM was addressed, not clear opinion platforms.

Keep flailing. You’ll hit on something eventually.

We've also had to deal with people who call themselves "Republican" desperately denying that they are no such thing even as every thought that comes out of their pieholes attacks the Right and defends the Left.

Nuh-uh! On this MB??

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