(02-17-2021, 12:07 AM)AlsJagsFan Wrote: (02-15-2021, 09:05 AM)Bullseye Wrote: The applicable case law strongly disagrees with you.
As to your closing question, what kind of proof do you expect?!?
To my knowledge, there has been no civil suit filed against Doyle on these matters. If there were a civil suit filed, the standard the plaintiffs would have to meet is liability by a "preponderance of the evidence" which means unlike the criminal standard of "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt," all a civil plaintiff/group of plaintiffs would have to do is have as little as 50.1% of the evidence in their favor. Taking the facts as we know them, there are over FIFTY (50) players alleging various sorts of mistreatment and effectively two people denying it.
Given the environment of a football locker room, it is doubtful Doyle would have reduced the racially tinged chastisements to writing.
But to be honest, there are those who would not accept any proof of racial discrimination as acceptable or persuasive. There have been countless examples of this on these boards over my close to two decades here.
I never once said "legal". If you are of a particular group of people and you're accused of something your life can be ruined even if it never happened. Period.
No, you didn't, which is odd considering an adverse judgment in a legal matter-civil or criminal-can ruin your life. The results of which are public record. But at least in a court of law, you have the opportunity to offer evidence disproving the allegations.
You also didn't mention "life or death," either, because, as you say, "if you are of a particular group of people and you're accused of something, your life can be ruined [or ended], even if it never happened. Period."
(02-16-2021, 01:35 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: (02-15-2021, 08:31 PM)Mandeezee Wrote: I've even waving the Meyer flag since before the hire, but this is a bad look.
How?
How can this happen???
WITH ALL THE S&C Coaches available...HOW THE [BLEEP] IS THIS GUY HIRED???
That's my concern. Is he Urban's relative, have they worked together? This hints at some type of nepotism or "good ol boys" network.
I believe Meyer and Doyle worked together for one year back while Meyer was coaching in Utah. I think that history only came into play in terms of Meyer believing Doyle when he likely said in private that he will change and wouldn't commit the same mistakes again. Doyle had significant qualifications. He had 20 years of experience and was the highest paid head strength and conditioning coach in college football at the time of his removal. It was clearly an error of judgement by Meyer, but I don't doubt that his motivation was driven by anything other than trying to improve the football team.
Exactly.
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
