(03-05-2021, 09:57 AM)Mikey Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 04:33 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: You are way behind in this discussion.  It's been discussed at nauseum, there are rare circumstances you don't take the top player like if we are stacked at a position or the guy won't see the field.

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I'm not as behind as you think.

What you are describing, though, contradicts the very point you are defending. You criticize others who are saying that they want to target a position, or who criticize a mock that fails to address a position. When they try to defend that they value that position, you scream "needs darfting" and profess allegiance to your ordinal board, and refuse to accept the notion that the way you structure things may not be the way others around here (or teams, for that matter) do.

If that second WR is your top player after you just picked a similar WR, and is that highly ranked that other players are not in consideration for the top of your board, passing on him invalidates your entire board strategy of "BPA". You either have to trade out of the pick to recoup the value lost, or you sacrifice the value by selecting a lower ranked player.

Or..........you could agree that after the first few picks, individual rankings likely don't exist. Players are grouped in tiers, which blend talent, ceiling, filling need, depth of that position in the draft, measurables and countless other factors. When your pick is due, you have a cluster of players that fit the value of the pick, and you weigh the factors to determine who you take. Every once in a while, you end up in the rare circumstance where one player is left in that tier...and you must then choose to make the pick yourself or shop it around for others who likely have that player rated as highly.

It's not as black and white as you make it. So either you're contradicting yourself when you say "BPA, but not BPA if I don't have need for that position", or we are arguing over the semantics of what the notion of BPA actually entails.

I think we're all caught up now.

I'm not criticizing anyone, everyone has their own opinion of how one should go about the draft.  Drafting a player over another higher rated player because of value of position is how end up taking Bortles over Khalil Mack or Gabbert over JJWatt.  I'm not sure if you are caught up yet or not.  They put players in tiers but they still have individual rankings into the 100's  All teams don't draft the same, some teams value need much more than others.  I like what Ozzie Newsom done. He took a TE in the first and come round 3 a TE was at the top of his board so and he stuck with it regardless of need.  He missed in the first pick but he still stuck with his board because he had him as the highest rated player.  Give me and All Pro player at a lesser position than just a good player at a more valued position, especially when you have a roster like we do where always every position good be upgraded.

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This is how I like to go about drafting. Coming from the man that just won the SB



https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...get-fired/

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“You can’t draft for need,” Arians said, via the Tampa Bay Times. “If you draft for need, you get fired. You take the best player. If you got two players, now you’ve got three of them. Just take the best player available. Now if you’ve got four players right there together and one of them is a need? That’s a home run.’’

A lot of mock drafts are penciling in LSU linebacker Devin White to the Bucs with the fifth overall pick, but if he’s the Bucs’ guy, it’s because they think he’s the best player on the board at the time, not because they need a linebacker.

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