(06-11-2023, 12:35 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(06-11-2023, 11:41 AM)p_rushing Wrote: Not for anything in his possession or that he is sharing with others.

Any docs he doesn't physically have do require a request to be made because of the procedures that are defined.

A request doesn't have to be made if he verbally shares information. If he shares it, it is deemed unclassified.

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The bolded is correct.  A sitting President can declassify information simply by sharing it verbally.  Trump was not a sitting President at this time.  Once a President is a private citizen, legally he must not disclose some of the things he knows, verbally or otherwise.  

The rest is wrong.

You really need to do your own research on this. Read the Clinton case and ruling.

The president has the sole power to decide anything about information, it is article 2. No one else can impede that power, all the classification rules are for other people. The president can change status whenever and without filling anything out. The forms are just for others so they can share the docs as they must follow the policies.

Clinton took records without filing anything but it was all deemed unclassified by his removing his records. It was personal records at that point and could be shared with anyone.

These are all copies of documents. Trump had them in his records and they were deemed unclassified when his term ended as he had them with him.


So here is the case:
He has classified documents- not true as anything he has is deemed unclassified
He has documents that contain classified markings- so what, you don't have to remove classified markings from documents
There is a recording about something being classified- this again doesn't matter
If Trump took this information with him, it is unclassified
If Trump doesn't have this information, then they will have to provide the information to prove it is classified
If they can't provide the information, then so what case dismissed
Trump can share any information that he wants with anyone at any point in time as long as it is not new information.
You may not like this but any information taken with him, i.e. his memory, is deemed unclassified. That doesn't mean you or I can share that information unless the form has been filled out and that would take the current president. He can't go and get documents now but any information he has he can share if he wishes. The rest of the government can still treat it as classified but those rules don't matter to a president.



None of the charges matter because everything is unclassified. Trump can share it with anyone, saying it is classified for anyone else is fine as the forms haven't been filled out to allow others to share it.




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