(04-10-2024, 01:03 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-10-2024, 12:47 PM)snarkyguy_he_him_his Wrote: We did provoke this war. Gotta finish it I guess.

Our stupid [BLEEP] government. Coup in 2014. US. CIA bases in Ukraine on the Russian border. US. Putting weapons in Ukraine that can reach Russia.. US. this is putting IRBMs in Turkey all over again. Except now we have a bone fide [BLEEP] in office instead of an actual man like JFK

The Ukraine and Russia actually worked out a deal long ago but America said nope, don't do it, we want you in NATO just to piss in Putins cereal. We have morons at the helm.

Most of that is not true. 
But if we did put weapons and bases in Ukraine after 1992 but before 2014, we would only have done so with permission from Ukraine's government, which at that time was sovereign, and was independent from Russia. Meaning Russia should have minded their own business about it.

Dude.. all of that is true.
https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/02/26/n...a-support/

When the soviet union dissolved there was an agreement that no former soviet states would join NATO. America said nah bro that was like 30 years ago, doesn't count.

The more you study the cold war.. the more we look like [BLEEP]. We were the aggressor in almost every single incident

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