(05-15-2021, 09:18 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I'm at a loss, man. Can anyone explain this better than me? I don't know how else to say it. When his case was dismissed, it wasn't because there was NO evidence fraud was committed. They know that some fraud happens in every election. Trump just didn't have any certifiable evidence to PROVE that he was the rightful winner. You can't sue to overturn results if you can't prove that someone else orchestrated and succeeded in robbing you of the election. He was NEVER going to win that case. You can find me saying that 3 days after the election. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WASN'T EVIDENCE. Why can't you get that through your head? It just wasn't concrete. They had zero shot of winning this in the courts. You are stopping there and saying no crime was committed. It's a [BLEEP] position to take.

There is a preponderance of evidence that suggest something fishy went down. You are talking about my bias, but we can't even get you past legal 101. Once you acknowledge that the court results are trivial to this discussion, then we can look at the preponderance of evidence. But, as long as you want to try to use the courts as proof of your positions (which they aren't and can't be), we can't even have a good-faith discussion about the election.

Trump team:  “Hey judge we have a lot of circumstantial evidence, hearsay and conjecture that enough fraud occurred to overturn the election.”

Judge:  “Do you have any concrete evidence?”

Trump team:  “No sir that is why we need to investigate.”

Judges:  “Without concrete evidence I can’t let you investigate.”

Trump team:  “But without an investigation we can’t produce concrete evidence.”

Judges:  “No concrete evidence then case dismissed.”


I have no problem with the Readers Digest condensed version above.  My issue was when pressed to investigate the very people accused of the fraud were the ones that did the investigations.  That should never happen, it should never be acceptable regardless of which side you are rooting for.   This would be akin to a detective going to a mob boss and saying “Hey Louie, I heard your cousin Vinnie shot a man last night.”  And Louie replying “Yeah I asked him about that, he said it wasn’t him.”  And the detective saying “OK”.

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