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TheO-LineMatters 7 round mock draft 3.0 (Hopefully the last one)
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Round 1
1. Jacksonville Jaguars- Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson
2. New York Jets- Zach Wilson, QB, BYU
3. San Francisco 49’ers (Via Mia Via Hou)- Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
4. Atlanta Falcons- Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida
5. Cincinnati Bengals- Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon
6. Miami Dolphins (Via Phi)- Ja’Marr Chase, WR, LSU
7. Detroit Lions- DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama
8. Carolina Panthers- Rashawn Slater, OT, Northwestern
9. Denver Broncos- Justin Fields, QB, OSU
10. Dallas Cowboys- Patrick Surtain, CB, Alabama
11. New York Giants- Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
12. Philadelphia Eagles (Via Mia Via SF)- Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina
13. L.A. Chargers- Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech
14. Minnesota Vikings- Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State
15. New England Patriots- Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
16. Arizona Cardinals- [font=Arial]Greg Newsome, CB, Northwestern[/font]
17. Las Vegas Raiders- Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU
18. Miami Dolphins- Kwity Paye, DE/OLB, Michigan
19. Washington Football Team- Teven Jenkins, OT, Oklahoma State
20. Chicago Bears- Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/OG, USC
21. Indianapolis Colts- Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami (Fla.)
22. Tennessee Titans- [font=Arial]Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota[/font]
23. New York Jets (Via Sea)- Najee Harris, RB, Alabama
24. Pittsburgh Steelers- Landon Dickerson, C/OG, Alabama
25. Jacksonville Jaguars (Via LAR)- Zaven Collins, OLB, Tulsa
26. Cleveland Browns- Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB, Notre Dame
27. Baltimore Ravens- Azeez Ojulari, DE/OLB, Georgia
28. New Orleans- [font=Arial]Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi[/font]
29. Green Bay Packers- [font=Arial]Jamin Davis, ILB, Kentucky [/font]
30. Buffalo Bills- Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami (Fla.)
31. Baltimore Ravens (Via KC)- Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU
32. Tampa Bay Bucs- Levi Onwuzurike, DE/DT, Washington
Round 2
33. Jacksonville Jaguars- Samuel Cosmi, OT, Texas WR
34. New York Jets- Asante Samuel Jr., CB, Florida State
35. Atlanta Falcons- Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson
36. Miami Dolphins (Via Hou)- [font=Arial]Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina [/font]
37. Philadelphia Eagles- Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina
38. Cincinnati Bengals- Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama
39. Carolina Panthers- [font=Arial]Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech [/font]
40. Denver Broncos- Jalen Mayfield, OT, Michigan
41. Detroit Lions- Jayson Oweh, DE/OLB, Penn State
42. New York Giants- Joe Tryon, DE/OLB, Washington
43. San Francisco 49’ers- [font=Arial]Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia [/font]
44. Dallas Cowboys- Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forest
45. Jacksonville Jaguars (Via Minn)- Jamar Johnson, S, Indiana
46. New England Patriots- Wyatt Davis, OG, OSU
47. L.A. Chargers- Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State
48. Las Vegas Raiders- Dayvion Nixon, DT, Iowa
49. Arizona Cardinals- Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida
50. Miami Dolphins- [font=Arial]Creed Humphrey, C, Oklahoma [/font]
51. Washington Football Team- Kyle Trask, QB, Florida
52. Chicago Bears- Kellen Mond, QB, Texas A&M
53. Indianapolis Colts- Liam Eichenburg, OT, Notre Dame
54. Tennessee Titans- [font=Arial]Joseph Ossai, DE/OLB, Texas [/font]
55. Seattle Seahawks- Alex Leatherwood, OG/OT, Alabama
56. Pittsburgh Steelers- Walker Little, OT, Stanford
57. L.A. Rams- [font=Arial]Jevon Holland, S, Oregon[/font]
58. Kansas City Chiefs (Via Balt)- [font=Arial]Payton Turner, DE, Houston [/font]
59. Cleveland Browns- Jaylen Twyman, DT, Pitt
60. New Orleans Saints- [font=Arial]Milton Williams, DE, La. Tech [/font]
61. Buffalo Bills- Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky
62. Green Bay Packers- [font=Arial]Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue[/font]
63. Kansas City Chiefs- [font=Arial]Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia [/font]
64. Tampa Bay Bucs- Davis Mills, QB, Stanford
Round 3
65. Jacksonville Jaguars- Hunter Long, TE, Boston College
66. New York Jets- [font=Arial]Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC[/font]
67. Houston Texans- Chris Rumph II, DE/OLB, Duke
68. Atlanta Falcons- [font=Arial]Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford [/font]
69. Cincinnati Bengals- Simi Fehoko, WR, Stanford
70. Philadelphia Eagles- Jay Tufele, DT, USC
71. Denver Broncos- Nick Bolton, ILB, Missouri
72. Detroit Lions- Jabril Cox, ILB, LSU
73. Carolina Panthers- Baron Browning, LB, OSU
74. Washington Football Team (Via SF)- [font=Arial]Jackson Carman, OG/OT, Clemson [/font]
75. Dallas Cowboys- Tyler Shelvin, DT, LSU
76. New York Giants- Alim McNeill, NT, North Carolina State
77. L.A. Chargers- Kary Vincent Jr., CB, LSU
78. Minnesota Vikings- Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota State
79. Las Vegas Raiders (Via Ari)- [font=Arial]Monty Rice, LB, Georgia [/font]
80. Las Vegas Raiders- Stone Forsythe, OT, Florida
81. Miami Dolphins- [font=Arial]Dylan Moses, ILB, Alabama [/font]
82. Washington Football Team- [font=Arial]Garret Wallow, LB, TCU[/font]
83. Chicago Bears- Trey Smith, OG/OT, Tennessee
84. Philadelphia Eagles (Via IND )- [font=Arial]Ronnie Perkins, DE, Oklahoma [/font]
85. Tennessee Titans- Brevin Jordan, TE, Miami (Fla.) 86. New York Jets (Via Sea)- [font=Arial]Aaron Banks, OG, Notre Dame [/font]
87. Pittsburgh Steelers- Trey Sermon, RB, OSU
88. LA Rams- [font=Arial]Quinn Meinerz, OG/C, Wisconsin-Whitewater [/font]
89. Cleveland Browns- [font=Arial]Patrick Jones, DE, Pitt [/font]
90. Minnesota Vikings (Via Balt)- Caden Sterns, S, Texas
91. Cleveland Browns (Via NO)- [font=Arial]Chazz Surratt, LB, North Carolina [/font]
92. Green Bay Packers- [font=Arial]Rashad Weaver, DE/OLB, Pitt[/font]
93. Buffalo Bills- [font=Arial]Deonte Brown, OG, Alabama [/font]
94. Baltimore Ravens (Via KC)- Josh Meyers, C, Ohio State
95. Tampa Bay Bucs- Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
96. New England- Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State
97. L.A. Chargers- Andre Cisco, S, Syracuse
98. New Orleans Saints- [font=Arial]Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse [/font]
99. Dallas Cowboys- Elijah Molden, S, Washington
100. Tennessee Titans- [font=Arial] [font=Arial]Tay Gowan, CB, UCF [/font] [/font]
101. Detroit Lions (Via L.A. Rams)- Osa Odighizuwa, DE/DT, UCLA
102. San Francisco 49’ers- Michael Carter, RB, North Carolina
103. L.A. Rams- Aaron Robinson, CB, UCF
104. Baltimore Ravens- Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas
105. New Orleans Saints- [font=Arial]Pete Werner, LB, Ohio State [/font]
Round 4
106. Jacksonville Jaguars- Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis
107. New York Jets- Spencer Brown, OT, Northern Iowa
108. Atlanta Falcons- Adetokunbo Ogundeji, DE/OLB, Notre Dame
109. Houston Texans- Israel Mukuamu, CB, South Carolina
110. Cleveland Browns (Via Phi)- Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville
111. Cincinnati Bengals- Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, Florida State
112. Detroit Lions- [font=Arial]Jack Anderson, OG, Texas Tech[/font]
113. Carolina Panthers- [font=Arial]Cole Banwart, OG, Iowa[/font]
114. Denver Broncos- Rodarius Williams, CB, Oklahoma State
115. Dallas Cowboys- Brady Christensen, OT, BYU
116. New York Giants- [font=Arial]D’ante Smith, OT, ECU [/font]
117. San Francisco 49’ers- [font=Arial]Nico Collins, WR, Michigan [/font]
118. L.A. Chargers- Darius Stills, DT, West Virginia
119. Minnesota Vikings- Tarron Jackson, DE, Coastal Carolina
120. New England Patriots- D’Wayne Eskridge, WR, Western Michigan
121. Las Vegas Raiders- [font=Arial]Tommy Kraemer, OG, Notre Dame [/font]
122. New England Patriots (Via Hou Via Ari)- Quincy Roche, DE/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
123. Philadelphia Eagles (Via Mia)- Divine Deablo, S, Virginia Tech
124. Washington Football Team- Kenny Yeboah, TE, Mississippi
125. Minnesota Vikings (Via Chi)- Sage Surratt, WR, Wake Forest
126. Tennessee Titans- James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati
127. Indianapolis Colts- Deommodore Lenoir, CB, Oregon
128. Pittsburgh Steelers- Elerson Smith, OLB, Northern Iowa
129. Seattle Seahawks- Benjamin St-Juste, CB, Minnesota
130. Jacksonville Jaguars (Via LAR)- Ben Cleveland, OG/C, Georgia
131. Baltimore Ravens- [font=Arial]Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa[/font]
132. Cleveland Browns- Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan
133. New Orleans Saints- Bobby Brown III, DT, Texas A&M
134. Minnesota Vikings (Via Buff)- Keith Taylor, CB, Washington
135. Green Bay Packers- Kendrick Green, OG/C, Illinois
136. Baltimore Ravens (Via KC)- Cameron McGrone, ILB, Michigan
137. Tampa Bay Bucs- Jordan Smith, OLB, UAB
138. Dallas Cowboys- [font=Arial]Royce Newman, OG/OT, Mississippi [/font]
139. New England Patriots- Richie Grant, S, UCF
140. Pittsburgh Steelers- Tre’ McKitty, TE, Georgia
141. L.A. Rams- Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame
142. Green Bay Packers- Nate Hobbs, CB, Illinois
143. Minnesota Vikings- Jose Borregales, K, Miami (Fla.)
144. Kansas City Chiefs- Paris Ford, S, Pitt
Round 5
145. Jacksonville Jaguars- Jaelon Darden, WR, North Texas
146. New York Jets- Dayo Odeyingbo, DE, Vanderbilt
147. Houston Texans- Tylan Wallace, WR, Oklahoma State
148. Atlanta Falcons- Shaka Toney, DE/OLB, Penn State
149. Cincinnati Bengals- Robert Hainsey, OG/OT/C, Notre Dame
150. Philadelphia Eagles- Ernest Jones, LB, South Carolina
151. Carolina Panthers- Demetric Felton, WR/RB, UCLA
152. Denver Broncos- Tommy Togiai, NT, Ohio State
153. Detroit Lions- [font=Arial]Anthony Schwartz, WR, Auburn [/font]
154. New York Jets (Via NYG)- Matt Bushman, TE, BYU
155. San Francisco 49’ers- Robert Jones, OG, Middle Tennessee State
156. Miami (Via Phi Via Dallas)- [font=Arial]Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin [/font]
157. Minnesota Vikings- Kenny Randall, DT, Charleston
158. Houston (Via NE)- Jamar Watson, OLB, Kentucky
159. L.A. Chargers- Malcolm Koonce, DE, Buffalo
160. Arizona Cardinals- [font=Arial]Larry Borom, OG/OT, Missouri [/font]
161. Buffalo Bills (Via LV)- Marlon Tuipulotu, DT, USC
162. Las Vegas Raiders (Via Mia)- Olaijah Griffin, CB, USC
163. Washington Football Team- [font=Arial]Shi Smith, WR, South Carolina [/font]
164. Chicago Bears- Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson
165. Indianapolis Colts- Richard LeCounte, S, Georgia
166. Tennessee Titans- [font=Arial]Ar’Darius Washington, S, TCU [/font]
167. Las Vegas Raiders (Via Sea)- David Moore, OG/C, Grambling State
168. Minnesota Vikings (Via Bal Via Pitt)- [font=Arial]Carson Green, OG/OT, Texas A&M [/font]
169. Cleveland Browns (LAR)- [font=Arial]Donavaughn Campbell, OG/OT, La. Tech[/font]
170. Jacksonville Jaguars (Via Cleve)- K.J. Britt, ILB, Auburn
171. Baltimore Ravens- Damar Hamlin, S, Pitt
172. San Francisco 49’ers (NO)- Reed Blankenship, S, Middle Tennessee State
173. Green Bay Packers- [font=Arial]Talanoa Hufanga, S, USC [/font]
174. Buffalo Bills- Michael Strachan, WR, Charleston
175. Kansas City Chiefs- Cade Johnson, WR, North Dakota State
176. Tampa Bay Bucs- [font=Arial]Sadarius Hutcherson, OG/OT, South Carolina[/font]
177. New England- Jaret Patterson, RB, Buffalo
178. Green Bay Packers- Ta’Quon Graham, DE, Texas
179. Dallas Cowboys- Buddy Johnson, LB, Texas A&M
180. San Francisco 49’ers- Wyatt Hubert, DE, Kansas State
181. Kansas City Chiefs- Anthony Hines III, LB, Texas A&M
182. Atlanta Falcons- [font=Arial]Christian Uphoff, S, Illinois State [/font]
183. Atlanta Falcons- Drake Jackson, C, Kentucky
184. Baltimore Ravens- Hamilcar Rashed Jr., OLB, Oregon State
Round 6
185. L.A. Chargers (Via Tenn Via Jax)- Josh Palmer, WR, Tennessee
186. New York Jets- Tre Norwood, CB, Oklahoma
187. Atlanta Falcons- Ian Book, QB, Notre Dame
188. New England (Via Hou)- [font=Arial]Tommy Doyle, OT, Miami (OH) [/font]
189. Philadelphia Eagles- John Bates, TE, Boise State
190. Cincinnati Bengals- Darren Hall, CB, SDSU
191. Denver Broncos- Charles Snowden, OLB, Virginia
192. Dallas (Via Det)- Zach Davidson, TE, Central Missouri
193. Carolina Panthers- Marvin Wilson, DT, Florida State
194. San Francisco 49’ers- Dan Moore, OT, Texas A&M
195. Houston (Via NE Via Dallas)- Paddy Fisher, ILB, Northwestern
196. New York Giants- Marquez Stevenson, WR, Houston
197. New England Patriots- Isaiahh Lowdermilk, DE, Wisconsin
198. L.A. Chargers- [font=Arial]Adrian Ealy, OG/OT, Oklahoma [/font]
199. Minnesota Vikings- Shane Buechele, QB, SMU
200. Las Vegas Raiders- [font=Arial]Cameron Sample DE, Tulane [/font]
201. New York Giants (Via Ari)- [font=Arial]Michael Brown, OG, West Virginia [/font]
202. Cincinnati Bengals (Via Hou Via Mia)- [font=Arial]Chauncey Golston, DE, Iowa [/font]
203. Houston Texans (Via Mia Via LV Via Wash)- Sam Ehlinger, QB, Texas
204. Chicago Bears- Malik Herring, DE, Georgia
205. Tennessee Titans- Quinton Bohanna, NT, Kentucky
206. Indianapolis Colts- Warren Jackson, WR, Colorado State
207. Kansas City Chiefs (Via Mia Via Pitt)- [font=Arial]Jared Hocker, OG, Texas A&M[/font]
208. Chicago Bears (Via Mia Via Sea)- Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR, Iowa
209. L.A. Rams- Cornell Powell, WR, Clemson
210. Baltimore Ravens- Josh Imatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois
211. Cleveland Browns- James Wiggins, S, Cincinnati
212. Houston Texans (Via NO)- Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
213. Buffalo Bills- Jaylon Moore, OT, Western Michigan
214. Green Bay Packers- Josh Ball, OT, Marshall
215. Tennessee Titans (Via K.C.)- [font=Arial]Marquiss Spencer, DE, Mississippi State[/font]
216. Pittsburgh Steelers (Via TB)- Antonio Phillips, CB, Ball State
217. Tampa Bay Bucs- Brenden Jaimes, OT, Nebraska
218. New Orleans Saints- Jamie Newman, QB, Georgia
219. Atlanta Falcons- Mustafa Johnson, DE/DT, Colorado
220. Green Bay Packers- Elijah Mitchell, RB, La. Lafayette
221. Chicago Bears- Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State
222. Carolina Panthers- Tony Poljan, TE, Virginia
223. Arizona Cardinals (Via Minn)- [font=Arial]Derrick Barnes, ILB, Purdue [/font]
224. Philadelphia Eagles- Landon Young, OT, Kentucky
225. Philadelphia Eagles- Trey Hill, C, Georgia
226. New York Jets (Via Car)- Riley Cole, LB, South Alabama
227. Dallas Cowboys- JaQuan Bailey, DE, Iowa State
228. Chicago Bears- Brady Breeze, S, Oregon
Round 7
229. New Orleans (Via Jax)- William Sherman, OG/OT, Colorado 230. San Francisco 49’ers (Via NYJ)- Frank Darby, WR, Arizona
231. Miami (Via Hou)- Jake Curhan, OG/OT, California
232. Tennessee Titans (Via Miam Via Atl)- Thomas Graham Jr., CB, Oregon
233. Houston Texans (Via Cin)- P.J. Burkhalter, OG/C, Nicholls State
234. Philadelphia Eagles- Dez Fitzpatrick, WR, Louisville
235. Cincinnati Bengals (Via Hou Via Sea Via Det)- Evan McPherson, K, Florida
236. Buffalo (Via Car)- Quintin Morris, TE, Bowling Green
237. Denver Broncos- Jamien Sherwood, S, Auburn
238. Dallas Cowboys- Feleipe Franks, QB, Arkansas
239. Denver Broncos (Via NYG)- Ryan Neuzil, OG, Appalachian State
240. Philadelphia Eagles (Via SF)- Kylin Hill, RB, Mississippi State
241. L.A. Chargers- [font=Arial]Anthony Butler, LB, Liberty [/font]
242. New England Patriots- Erroll Thompson, ILB, Mississippi State
243. Arizona Cardinals- Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State
244. Washington Football Team (Via LV)- Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri
245. Pittsburgh Steelers (Via Mia)- Rayshard Ashby, ILB, Virginia Tech
246. Washington Football Team- [font=Arial]Victor Dimukeje, DE, Duke [/font]
247. Arizona Cardinals (Via LV Via Chi)- Eli Howard, DE, Texas Tech
248. Indianapolis Colts- Kylen Granson, H-Back, SMU
249. Jacksonville Jaguars (Via Tenn)- William Bradley-King, OLB, Baylor
250. Seattle Seahawks- Chris Garrett, DE, Concordia
251. Tampa Bay Bucs (Via Pitt)- Seth Williams, WR, Auburn
252. L.A. Rams- Khyiris Tonga, NT, BYU
253. Denver Broncos (Via Cleve)- Javian Hawkins, RB, Louisville
254. Pittsburgh Steelers (Via Balt)- Jared Goldwire, DE/DT, Louisville
255. New Orleans Saints- Jack Snyder, OT, San Jose State
256. Green Bay Packers- Tedarrell Slaton, NT, Florida
257. Cleveland Browns (Via Buff)- Luke Farrell, TE, OSU
258. Miami Dolphins (Via KC)- Kyle Spaulding, OT, SDSU
259. Tampa Bay Bucs- Briley Moore, TE, Kansas State
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I would be quite happy with this draft, though I am not a huge fan of Long.
Is this what you predict they will do, or what you would do? Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(04-26-2021, 07:40 PM)Bullseye Wrote: I would be quite happy with this draft, though I am not a huge fan of Long. What I predict we will do. I am a fan of long though. He's like a more athletic version of Pat Freiermuth. You get the size and you get the hands like Freiermuth, but you also get speed, which is something Freiermuth lacks.
The Jets should be deliriously happy if they landed Spencer brown in the 4th. I would be pissed because we passed him up and didn't trade up to get him in the 3rd.
(04-26-2021, 07:43 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(04-26-2021, 07:40 PM)Bullseye Wrote: I would be quite happy with this draft, though I am not a huge fan of Long. So if they did exactly as you predict, what would you think of the draft as a Jaguars fan? What wouldn't you like? What would you do instead? Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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(04-26-2021, 07:54 PM)Bullseye Wrote: The Jets should be deliriously happy if they landed Spencer brown in the 4th. I would be pissed because we passed him up and didn't trade up to get him in the 3rd. It's a decent draft, but not exactly what I would do. I love the first round. We are woefully understaffed at edge pass rusher right now. If we have even one injury, we're screwed. Collins gives us at least a good three man rotation and I believe he would easily beat out Chaisson as a starter by the end of the season. It's round 2 where I start disagreeing. I'd take Dyami Brown at #33 and Liam Eichenberg at #45. Brown is a dynamic receiver and having him on the field with D.J. Chark would be a great combination. Eichenberg is a plug and play LT in my opinion. I have him rated higher than Cosmi. I love the Hunter Long pick. He gives you everything you want in a TE. I believe he will end up being the 2nd best TE out of this class. I'm good with this one. I really like Gainwell in the 4th. He has great hands and very good speed. He'd be a solid compliment to Robinson, but there is no way I'd take him over Spencer Brown. Brown would be my pick at #107. He would easily beat out Taylor for the RT position. I like Ben Cleveland. It's not a stand out pick, but he's a good player and can play OG or Center. Round 5 is where I am underwhelmed. I really like Darden, but I would have already drafted a WR in Dyami Brown, so I would probably select RB Jaret Patterson. I like his speed and elusiveness, despite his small size. He averaged 16 yards a catch in 2019, so he's explosive with the ball in his hands. A really good compliment to Robinson. Britt is probably my highest rated player on the board, so that pick is fine. With the final pick I really am not a fan of Bradley-King. I would take a CB here. IMO, you can't have too many good corners. I like Rachad Wildgoose of Wisconsin.
Question: Why no replacement RT for Baltimore? Was there a specific rationale for it, or did it just work out that way?
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(04-26-2021, 09:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Question: Why no replacement RT for Baltimore? Was there a specific rationale for it, or did it just work out that way? #131 I have them taking Alaric Jackson. He played LT at Iowa, but I project him as a RT in the NFL. (04-26-2021, 08:13 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: In no way could I see Meyer passing on Barmore twice I don't see D-Line as a need at all after free agency. We are loaded on the D-Line now with Malcolm Brown, Doug Costin, DaVon Hamilton, Roy Robertson-Harris, Dawuane Smoot and Jihad Ward.
(04-26-2021, 09:17 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(04-26-2021, 09:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Question: Why no replacement RT for Baltimore? Was there a specific rationale for it, or did it just work out that way? That's not a loaded dline. Its improved but most of those guys are just good rotational and depth guys. We need a star on that dline and we still need to get better We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (04-26-2021, 09:17 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:My mistake. Obviously I overlooked that.(04-26-2021, 09:14 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Question: Why no replacement RT for Baltimore? Was there a specific rationale for it, or did it just work out that way? That would be a decent get for them. (04-26-2021, 09:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:I agree with flgatorsjags here.(04-26-2021, 09:17 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: #131 I have them taking Alaric Jackson. He played LT at Iowa, but I project him as a RT in the NFL. We have guys to fill the D-Line positions, but I don't necessarily see them winning many trench battles. I don't see a true dominator in that group. Though I prefer an offensive lean to this draft, we could stand to upgrade the DL at least once in this draft. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
Yeah there's a distinction between deep and loaded. We have a lot of functional bodies, but we could still use some talent infusion.
(04-26-2021, 10:24 PM)Upper Wrote: Yeah there's a distinction between deep and loaded. We have a lot of functional bodies, but we could still use some talent infusion. I will say that Davon Hamilton has a chance to be a really good player in this scheme, whether you put him at DE or NT. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(04-26-2021, 09:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(04-26-2021, 09:17 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: #131 I have them taking Alaric Jackson. He played LT at Iowa, but I project him as a RT in the NFL. I absolutely, 100% couldn't disagree more. Let's look at the current 3-4 base teams and look at their D-Lines. NE- Lawrence Guy, Davon Godchaux, Henry Anderson Ari- J.J. Watt, Rashard Lawrence, Zach Allen Balt- Derek Wolfe, Brandon Williams, Calais Campbell Chi- Akiem Hicks, Eddie Goldman, Bilal Nichols Den- Dre'Mont Jones, Mike Purcell, Shelby Harris GB- Dean Lowry, Kenny Clark, Kingsley Keke Hou- Vincent Taylor, Maliek Collins, Charles Omenihu LAR- Michael Hoecht, Sebastian Joseph Day, Aaron Donald Mia- Christian Wilkins, Zach Sieler, Raekwon Davis NYG- Dexter Lawrence, Danny Shelton, Leonard Williams Pitt- Stephon Tuitt, Tyson Alualu, Cameron Heyward TB- Ndamukong Suh, Vita Vea, William Gholston Tenn- Jeffrey Simmons, Teair Tart, Denico Autry I'm not seeing a lot of star players. I see J.J. Watt, Akiem Hicks, Aaron Donald, Leonard Williams, Stephon Tuitt and Ndamukong Suh. Baltimore and Green Bay are seemingly always in the playoffs and they don't have a star D-Lineman. Denico Autry was a very good pass rusher for Indy, but he is changing systems and who knows what he will be in a 3-4 scheme? Calais Campbell was a star in a 4-3 scheme, but since moving to a 3-4 he had his lowest sack total since his rookie year. The pass rush is generated via the OLB's and the DE's and NT are there to stop the run. We have excellent run stoppers up front now. Brown is tremendous. I'm supper excited to see DaVon Hamilton in a 3-4 and we spent a lot of money on Robertson Harris. Add to that all the depth we have with Smoot, Costin and Ward and I see a very good rotation that is as good as any on this list. We can succeed with what we have now. There is no reason to believe otherwise. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (04-27-2021, 02:19 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:(04-26-2021, 09:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That's not a loaded dline. Its improved but most of those guys are just good rotational and depth guys. We need a star on that dline and we still need to get better 3-4 defenses really aren't designed for the linemen to put up big sack numbers. Typically, the DL are unselfish, and are tasked with occupying blockers so the LBs can make the plays. As for you assessment of the players on those teams, I would say Lawrence Guy is very good. Also, while Cincy is not running a 3-4, they got DJ Reader last year from Houston. Reader is outstanding. Furthermore, the Rams managed to keep Michael Brockers. Brockers is a good 3-4 DL. Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
(04-27-2021, 02:19 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:It's funny you listed Tuitt but not Heyward, a guy who has been one of the best dlinman since entering the league. Not to mention you left off a number of studs who is better than anything we have on the dline. You are the only person on this board that thinks we are loaded on the dline. I want a game changer up front if we are able to land one and as does Meyer unless you just think he is lying everytime he puts a emphasis on having a great dline. You said this draft is what you think the Jags will do and then you said you passed Barmore multiple times because you think our dline is loaded. I dont think Baalke and Meyer thinks our dline is loaded, if they felt that we wouldn't of tried to land Alualu. Even if we were able to get Alu I still think they would of tried to upgrade the dline in the draft(04-26-2021, 09:38 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: That's not a loaded dline. Its improved but most of those guys are just good rotational and depth guys. We need a star on that dline and we still need to get better
(04-27-2021, 05:19 AM)Bullseye Wrote:(04-27-2021, 02:19 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I absolutely, 100% couldn't disagree more. Let's look at the current 3-4 base teams and look at their D-Lines. Exactly, so why do we need a pass rushing difference maker on the D-Line? I think we are more than capable of being a good defensive team with a D-Line of Hamilton, Brown and Robertson-Harris. I totally believe we need to focus on getting another OLB. Right now, we just have Allen and Chaisson with virtually nothing behind them. Allen is coming off injury and Chaisson was a huge disappointment in 2020. I don't see a pass rushing difference maker on the D-Line in this draft anyway. To me, Guy's name says it all. He's just a guy. He's never had more than 4.5 sacks in a year. He's not a pass rushing difference maker. Reader was a NT and he has never had over 2.5 sacks. flgatorsandjags was specifically sighting that we needed a pass rusher on the D-Line, so that is what I was focusing on for current NFL 3-4 teams. Brockers was too inconsistent to call him a pass rushing difference maker. He went from 4.5 sacks in 2017 to 1 in 2018 to 3 in 2019 to 5 in 2020. Not to mention that he had the benefit of playing opposite the best defensive player in the NFL, Aaron Darnold.
(04-27-2021, 09:23 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:You dont know how to judge a players affectivness. You just look at a sack number. I want a 3-4 end that is a game changer like a Richard Seymore or a Cameron Heyward. Since those guys didn't put up double digit stats you don't think those guys were game changer at times? I feel Barmore has that potential, Barmore can push the pocket, can cause disruption in the passing game, and is good against the run. Can do it all, none of our guys on the dline has the potential Barmore has(04-27-2021, 05:19 AM)Bullseye Wrote: 3-4 defenses really aren't designed for the linemen to put up big sack numbers. Typically, the DL are unselfish, and are tasked with occupying blockers so the LBs can make the plays. Barmore had 3 sacks and 3 FFs last year so if you just want to look at the sack number there you go. Not to mention when we are in 4-3 sets Barmore will play the 3 tech where he might shine even more. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(04-27-2021, 06:58 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:(04-27-2021, 02:19 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I absolutely, 100% couldn't disagree more. Let's look at the current 3-4 base teams and look at their D-Lines.It's funny you listed Tuitt but not Heyward, a guy who has been one of the best dlinman since entering the league. Not to mention you left off a number of studs who is better than anything we have on the dline. You are the only person on this board that thinks we are loaded on the dline. I want a game changer up front if we are able to land one and as does Meyer unless you just think he is lying everytime he puts a emphasis on having a great dline. You said this draft is what you think the Jags will do and then you said you passed Barmore multiple times because you think our dline is loaded. I dont think Baalke and Meyer thinks our dline is loaded, if they felt that we wouldn't of tried to land Alualu. Even if we were able to get Alu I still think they would of tried to upgrade the dline in the draft Heyward is very good, but he is 31 and coming off his worst season as a pass rusher since 2016 and he has the benefit of playing opposite Tuitt. If you want to add him to the list of great 3-4 pass rushers, go ahead. It still doesn't change my argument. I don't think anyone I left out that is better than what we have. I really like DaVon Hamilton and think he's not being talked about enough. I am expecting a big year from him. Brown is a great run stuffer and we paid Robertson-Smith starter money in free agency. I also believe a scheme switch will greatly benefit Smoot and Costin in particular and Ward is experienced in the system we will run and had 3.0 sacks in 2020 as a part time player with the Ravens. We don't need a difference maker on the D-Line. The Ravens and Packers are in the playoffs almost every year and they generate their pass rush via the OLB position. When I say we are loaded at D-Line, I mean we have a lot of depth and we have no glaring weaknesses. I am confident going into the season that we have greatly upgraded the position. I'm way more concerned about the OLB spot. We essentially have Allen and Chaisson and no one else. Allen is coming off injury and Chaisson was a disappointment in 2020. We need at least 3 rotational players who can get to the QB. This is a weakness. You are placing way too much emphasis on Barmore. I don't think there is a difference making 3-4 D-Lineman in this draft. I believe you are way over-estimating how good he will be. Have you seen the recent rumors that he doesn't take too well to coaching and that they had some issues with him at Alabama? It was brought up on the draft rumors section of the board by irontrooper83. I read the same article and if it was true, I'd totally take Barmore off my board. If he refuses to be coached, he's not going to be a benefit to the team drafting him. You can't have one guy blowing his assignments, because he refuses to be coached. As far as buying into what Meyer and Baalke have been saying about the D-Line, I don't know who is lying and who is telling the truth this time of year. There are so many smokescreens, who knows what is true? I just know that if they follow the BAP model as I see it, this is how I believe they will draft.
(04-27-2021, 09:23 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:You are probably the biggest needs drafter on this board. I'm good with getting a 3-4 OLB as well if he is a better player than Barmore. I just don't think there will be a better defensive player on the board if Barmore is there at 25(04-27-2021, 05:19 AM)Bullseye Wrote: 3-4 defenses really aren't designed for the linemen to put up big sack numbers. Typically, the DL are unselfish, and are tasked with occupying blockers so the LBs can make the plays. (04-27-2021, 09:23 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:Because a 3-4 DL can make a difference in ways aside from sacks. A dominant run defender who can occupy blocks means more free guys to go get the ball carrier. This means more long yardage situations which leads to more sacks and turnovers and better field position.(04-27-2021, 05:19 AM)Bullseye Wrote: 3-4 defenses really aren't designed for the linemen to put up big sack numbers. Typically, the DL are unselfish, and are tasked with occupying blockers so the LBs can make the plays. Guy sounds like he has a generic name, but every time I see him, he does something that impresses me. Way more than renaldo Wynn or Tyson alualu or Taven Bryan ever did. It doesn't matter to me whether NTs register many sacks, as long as they clog the middle. Joel Steed and Ted Washington never notched many sacks, but they were key to the Steelers' and Bills' stingy defenses. Now if you run a 3-4 and can get a DL who can generate a good pass rush (Leonard Marshall, Bruce Smith, Neil Smith, Howie Long, J.J. Watt), then you have the potential to have a special defense because it's one additional matchup advantage. But not having a big pass rusher from a 3-4 DL doesn't mean he's not winning any matchups or helping your defense. (04-27-2021, 09:45 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:Agreed completely!(04-27-2021, 09:23 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Exactly, so why do we need a pass rushing difference maker on the D-Line? I think we are more than capable of being a good defensive team with a D-Line of Hamilton, Brown and Robertson-Harris. I totally believe we need to focus on getting another OLB. Right now, we just have Allen and Chaisson with virtually nothing behind them. Allen is coming off injury and Chaisson was a huge disappointment in 2020. I don't see a pass rushing difference maker on the D-Line in this draft anyway....You just look at a sack number. I want a 3-4 end that is a game changer like a Richard Seymore or a Cameron Heyward. Since those guys didn't put up double digit stats you don't think those guys were game changer at times? I feel Barmore has that potential, Barmore can push the pocket, can cause disruption in the passing game, and is good against the run. Can do it all, none of our guys on the dline has the potential Barmore has Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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