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4 scouts fired

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(05-07-2021, 10:07 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(05-06-2021, 12:36 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I'm not saying he took zero input from the scouts. I'm suggesting he simply disregarded much of what they said, because he already had his mind made up about guys he was familiar with.

Why did Meyer choose Etienne, Campbell and Tufele over Farrell? It's simple. Meyer knew Etienne via the college playoffs. He knew he was a far superior player. The same goes for Tyson Campbell and Jay Tufele. Both were recruited by Urban Meyer at Ohio State. He had an intimate knowledge of these guys and wanted them very much, because he knew they were good players. They just chose other schools. That's why he chose them before Farrell. He knew them all and they were simply better players. As far as Farrell, there were still two full rounds in the draft that were left and far, far, far better players at a variety of positions that were left on the board when he was taken. We already signed one of the best blocking TE's in the NFL in free agency and that was not a need at all. He certainly wasn't the BAP and it certainly wasn't a need, so Meyer took him based solely out of familiarity and that was stupid. Based on what we already had and what we needed, no scout in their right mind would've recommended taking Farrell in round 5. That was all on Meyer.
 (Emphasis added)

The part in bold is confusing, because in your post before this one to which I responded, you typed this:


Quote:Almost all of his draft picks were guys he was familiar with while coaching. Most were guys he recruited. Farrell was drafted because Meyer knew him and thought he was "a nice guy." Apparently, not because of his abilities. That was a comment made by Meyer. It's pretty evident.

Why would he draft players according to their abilities before him and ignore abilities afterward?  If you are comfortable the team drafted according to abilities before the Farrell pick, why would you be uncomfortable with any of the picks made before Farrell?

Does being a good person/locker room guy factor into a team's determination as to whether a player is draftable or not?

Is it possible the team eschewed BAP and drafted for need?

Is it possible after the 4th round, UM didn't think there was anyone left with a chance of starting or upgrading a position?

Is it possible they simply ranked him incorrectly?

Is it possible you simply ranked him incorrectly?


Not trying to give you grief, just trying to understand your position.

Simply put, apparently he ran out of good players he was familiar with. So rather than trust his scouts, he chose "a guy" he was familiar with, because he was a "good person."

It plays a small part whether a player is a nice guy or not.

I have no idea. Farrell was neither the BAP or a need.

If he thought that after the 4th round, he hasn't done his job correctly. We were 1-15 last season. We have a lot of bad starters that could've at least been pushed by better players. 

It is possible they ranked him incorrectly. He is a blocking TE. They should never be taken that high, especially when you already have one of the best in the NFL already on the team.

No. It is not possible I ranked him incorrectly. I watched every game he has ever played at OSU. I am very familiar with Farrell.
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4 scouts fired - by Sneakers - 05-06-2021, 09:12 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheDogCatcher - 05-06-2021, 09:29 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by HURRICANE!!! - 05-10-2021, 11:37 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-10-2021, 02:58 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Ronster - 05-06-2021, 09:33 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 09:34 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 09:36 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 09:40 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 09:49 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 09:51 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 09:53 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 10:00 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 10:08 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 10:13 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by dennisp3 - 05-06-2021, 10:44 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-06-2021, 10:58 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-06-2021, 10:20 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 10:24 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-06-2021, 10:51 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 12:36 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 12:41 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 03:03 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 03:06 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 03:11 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 03:19 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 03:27 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 03:32 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 03:36 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 03:42 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by scottyg - 05-06-2021, 03:19 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Cleatwood - 05-07-2021, 08:29 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by OzJohnnie - 05-07-2021, 05:15 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-07-2021, 03:51 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-07-2021, 07:03 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-07-2021, 10:07 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-07-2021, 04:00 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-07-2021, 07:19 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by SamusAranX - 05-06-2021, 10:26 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by CanDoBetter - 05-06-2021, 10:41 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by FBT - 05-07-2021, 04:05 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Bullseye - 05-07-2021, 07:32 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by flsprtsgod - 05-06-2021, 09:53 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by iHaunting Raven - 05-06-2021, 10:14 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 10:15 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by iHaunting Raven - 05-06-2021, 10:21 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by TheO-LineMatters - 05-06-2021, 10:19 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by scottyg - 05-06-2021, 10:47 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Jag88 - 05-06-2021, 01:01 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by jaglyn - 05-06-2021, 03:32 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-06-2021, 03:33 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by jaglyn - 05-06-2021, 06:09 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Mikey - 05-07-2021, 08:19 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Kane - 05-06-2021, 06:14 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by jaguarmvp - 05-06-2021, 10:29 PM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by NYC4jags - 05-07-2021, 08:57 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by scottyg - 05-07-2021, 09:18 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by NYC4jags - 05-07-2021, 09:23 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-07-2021, 09:30 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by scottyg - 05-07-2021, 10:05 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by StroudCrowd1 - 05-07-2021, 09:00 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by Dimson - 05-07-2021, 09:14 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by StroudCrowd1 - 05-07-2021, 09:24 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by NH3 - 05-07-2021, 11:19 AM
RE: 4 scouts fired - by NYC4jags - 06-10-2021, 04:50 PM



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