(06-10-2021, 12:39 PM)Race Bannon Wrote:

(06-10-2021, 09:43 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Kinda sad that everyone here knew that would be the case but our new brain trust wasted time and money on a guy who can't play.

I don't think that's necessarily the case -- it may be that Gardner is considered to be too valuable to continue in a "no chance to start absent injury" job, and that they believe they can trade him for good value. If that's the case, they needed to shop for another backup. Perhaps Beathard is still the answer, just not as good as Minshew. Perhaps the Jags will continue to shop for a veteran backup.

(06-10-2021, 01:28 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(06-10-2021, 12:39 PM)Race Bannon Wrote: I don't think that's necessarily the case -- it may be that Gardner is considered to be too valuable to continue in a "no chance to start absent injury" job, and that they believe they can trade him for good value.  If that's the case, they needed to shop for another backup.  Perhaps Beathard is still the answer, just not as good as Minshew.  Perhaps the Jags will continue to shop for a veteran backup.

Beathard is a worse player for 3 times the money that they signed because they knew him. If he's not the answer then it's just another mark against the front office.

(06-14-2021, 02:49 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Minshew might be the league's best back up qb, but who is he better than in the entire nfl to be a starter? Let's be honest about it. It's best to keep him for insurance at least for this season. Dont force a stupid trade where you get a nothing late round pick. He has more value as a back up unless you get a deal you cant refuse.

(06-14-2021, 08:16 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: The question is trade value vs insurance. Does he provide more value as trade bait or as insurance if, God forbid, Lawrence goes down with an injury? Who would you rather have leading the team in that event, Minshew or Beathard? I'll take Minshew because for one, I can't think of a better available player as backup. And two, I don't think his trade value is worth more than his value as a backup QB.

I'm confused. Insurance for what?

For the the season, this teams' record is an unimportant bellwether. The most important thing for this team is T-Law's development, and secondly for the coaching staff to prove they have reasonable system and can develop players. Now if those things happen, of course they will win more games. But given their schedule, even a 4 or 5 win season could still have great signs of team improvement.

The best thing for the the back up QB is to help T-Law understand whatever system is being implemented, the reads that he needs to know, the defenses he will be facing, etc. Also for all the "but Bethard is a bad QB", well lots of bad or mediocre QB's and players become great coaches. If Minshew is that guy, great; but if not, then he is expendable.

If Lawrence (knock on wood) does get injured, having a QB who has the best chance to win a few meaningless games this season doesn't really matter.

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