(07-18-2021, 02:38 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: It sounds to me like there were a few issues that ended up being a "perfect storm" kind of thing.

First is the issue with Tom Coughlin and his strict rules regarding discipline.  There are pros/cons when it comes to that and naturally players aren't going to like it.  Coming from a military background, when "strict discipline" is properly taught it makes for better players and better people (in my opinion).  That leads to the next issue.

Just how the strict rules regarding discipline are enforced.  It sure sounds like (if true) Dave Caldwell crossed a line somewhere.  Enforcing strict rules can be done in a "non-combative" manner.  Most of the time the "yelling, screaming and cussing" is going to turn the recipient off.

Finally, it sure sounds like football players aren't open to learning new life lessons (discipline).  To them and many young people it's all about being "respected/disrespected".  "Respect" is earned and it doesn't come by being a good football player.


Just my opinion, but I think everyone involved could use some lessons about leadership.

There was a time many years ago when certain parallels between military-style discipline and leadership of a football team could be drawn. 

That time is long gone now. Modern rules, modern players, modern coaches have all moved on from that model. Now it's about motivating players to work hard to prepare, but they don't do it the same way. They can't. 

There was no discipline being taught from any level, in any style, from that last Jaguars regime. 

Coughlin was seen as out of touch, antiquated, and was generally ignored. 
Marrone was seen as a crass, potty-mouthed, bologna-eating slob who garnered no respect.
And now we have one instance of Caldwell losing his cool with a diva who constantly lost his cool with everyone around him. (the kid had it coming IMO) 

It was a complete [BLEEP] show.  It's incredible that they strung together that 2017 run at all.

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