(03-20-2022, 08:24 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(03-19-2022, 11:29 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Of course I thought we were gonna sign guys. I said no tier 1 talent was gonna come here and I admitted I was wrong when we signed Brandon Scherff and Darious Williams. We mainly did sign tier 2 and 3 talent though. Foye Oluokun is a rising NFL player, but he was still tier 2. I believe he will someday be considered a tier 1 guy, hopefully very soon. Folorunso Futukasi was tier 2, Christian Kirk was tier 2, Evan Engram used to be tier 1, but injuries caused him to take a 1 year prove it deal, so he is a tier 2 guy and Zay Jones is a tier 3 guy. All together we did fare better than I thought we would. I never thought we could've landed Scherff and Williams. I was wrong on that one. 

Like I said, no matter the talent level we would've signed, those players would've probably automatically become starters no matter who they were. We only won 3 games last season, so anyone we signed could've been an upgrade, even slightly. This team lacked talent all across the board.

You just said alot did yet you didnt and i dont think most thought we would come out of FA with that many starters.  Most thought Kirk was the 2nd best WR behind Allen Robinson yet you cried about ARob because you didn't want him.  We had the best FA class across the league.  I don't see how you can cry about this FA class when we had one of the best in history along with the 2017 class.  6 starters

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(03-20-2022, 06:57 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: A. Players don't have a say where they go, unless they have a no-trade clause and that is a rare thing nowadays. No one we have discussed as potential WR targets had/has a no-trade clause. 

B. If players don't wanna come here then why in the hell did we retain Baalke? Isn't that what we thought would happen? One way or the other, not getting any quality WR's via free agency or trade all falls squarely on the front office.

Players do have a say were they go.  Nobody is going to trade for a player that don't want to play for them.  Remember Yawn and Ramsey?  Neither had a no trade clause but they didn't want to play here anymore so we had to get rid of them.  It would be idiotic to keep someone pr trade that don't want to play for your team.  I don't want anyone that do t want to be here. Who is the tier 1 NT and LB that we should of brought I?

I'm specifically talking about the WR position. We did improve in other areas. I'm not arguing that at all, but when it comes to the area that Trevor Lawrence needed the most help in, we didn't do much at all. I said before free agency that I didn't like any of the WR's that were available and stated my desire to trade for a good one. Outside of Davante Adams, who I knew would get franchised, I didn't wanna sign any FA WR. There just wasn't any quality players. We ended up drastically overspending on an average slot receiver and overspending on a guy who couldn't even hold D.J. Chark's jock strap. I thought the best option would be to re-sign Chark and hope he stayed healthy. 

You believe what you wanna believe. You're living in a fantasy land. There is a HUGE difference between wanting out of the team you already play for and being traded to a new team. Do you think we consulted Ramsey or Ngakoue where they wanted to go before we traded them? Of course not. We took the best deal we got and the team they went to had to deal with them. It's buyer beware when you trade for a player. 

I don't believe NT was even a need. I liked what we had in DaVon Hamilton and Malcolm Brown. I thought they did a good job last season. As far as LB, there was no tier 1 guys, imo. We signed the guy we should have signed. He may not be a tier 1 guy, but as I already explained, he is an ascending young player and I believe he will be a tier 1 LB very soon. I never criticized this pick at all. The addition of Foye Oluokun was actually one of my favorite signings.

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