(03-20-2022, 11:39 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(03-20-2022, 11:18 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Malcolm Brown is a free agent after this season and DaVon Hamilton is developing but his play was still pretty inconsistent.

The Jags also ranked 23rd in yards allowed on the ground last year. Upgrading run defense was indeed a need. The two best ways to do that are DT and ILB. They did both even though half of the ILB equation is yet unsolved. 
I can't imagine faulting the NT addition we made. Very wise free agent move IMO. 

Nothing personal, but every time the Jags make a move that doesn't fit some incredibly specific parameters you've set your heart on, you tend to lash out with some off-the-charts hyperbole. 
Respectfully - I don't think it's quite as bad as you're making it out to be. 

None of us are thrilled with the current state of the Jags receiving corps, but it's still mid-March. 
And the Jags have better hands available to Trevor Lawrence than he had in 2021 with another addition almost assuredly on the way.  

TBA Early Draft Pick + Kirk + Engram + Z.Jones is a solid upgrade for a 2nd year promising QB. 
If Lawrence's line protects marginally better than last season - these additions should help him produce respectfully in Pederson's offense. 

I never expected a team with this many blatant hurdles to overcome to hit a home run in free agency since so many players want to go to immediate contenders - but we may have actually cracked one awkwardly off the backstop for a stand up double.

Brown is a FA after this season, so I'd deal with it then. Right now, I like him and Hamilton. As far as ranking 23rd in rushing yards allowed, much of that had to do with the terrible play of both our ILB's. Jack and Wilson were putrid. Thank God we will be starting over at the position. Foye Oloukun is better than both those guys combined. I just think the money we spent on NT, would've been spent wiser by using it to trade for a good WR and possibly extending them. 

I just don't see a significant difference in the WR unit. How is Trevor supposed to grow as a QB when he has no decent targets? Unless we trade up into round 1, I just don't see a difference making WR falling to us at #33. With Green Bay now needing a WR, I see all of the top guys gone by pick #22 and after London, Williams, Olave, Wilson and Dotson, I see a huge dropoff at the position. I still think there is good receivers to be had, but I don't see much of a difference between the guys who fall to round 2 and the ones in round 6. They are pretty much all hit and miss. It's a deep WR draft, but they guys at the top are the cream of the crop. 

It depends on who the early round pick is. Kirk is an average slot receiver, Engram is good, but he has to prove he can stay healthy. He's only played a full season once out of the last 5 years and I'm not even sure Zay Jones is good enough to make the final roster. I just don't see much of a difference in the receivers, even with better protection. 

We definitely got better on defense. I'm not arguing that. I believe we got better at OG as well and if Engram stays healthy (which is a big "if",) we got better at TE, but this team cannot have an average slot receiver as it's top WR.

I think this is where you differ with a lot of the posters here. Kicking the can down the road isn't always the worst thing, but sometimes filling the hole before it swallows everything you built is better. Signing an NT before it's a glaring need, darfting a tackle before Cam's franchise year elapses are both ways to ensure that next year we are not in desperation to fill holes.

Go look at how desperate teams draft, or sign FA, and see how it works out. Not being desperate allows you flexibility. It prevents overspending.
You're right, a lot of these things we're doing today are not needs TODAY. But when tomorrow comes, we're in better shape than had we sat back and did nothing.

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(03-20-2022, 12:26 PM)Upper Wrote:

(03-20-2022, 11:52 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Crazy to think a slot WR putting up 982 yards is a average slot WR.  We need some more of these average players.  It's good to know that Kirk will also have a QB that can see over the line

982 yards in 17 games is just not that impressive dude.

...how's 556 in 9 games?

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(03-20-2022, 12:54 PM)Upper Wrote:

(03-20-2022, 12:44 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I disagree dude.  How many slot WRs had over that?

Kupp, Deebo, Tyreek, Lockett, Diontae, Keenan, Godwin, Ceedee, and Renfrow all played more than 50% of their snaps from the slot and all had over 1k yards. Many of those played less than 17 games too.

Kirk is a pretty good player, you don't have to blow him up into some elite anything just because he is now a Jaguar.

...do those stats provide how much of their yardage was gained from the slot?

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