(01-20-2022, 02:42 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:

(01-20-2022, 02:10 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I think I'm just more on the Caldwell or Bowles bandwagon. I know there was a discussion about BB making retreads seem better than not, but I just feel that the entire football side of this organization needs a solid philosophy and foundation that is has not had since JDR even if people eventually soured on him. And I think having the prior HC coaching experience and maybe more of a CEO mindset would help them better set that up for the franchise right now.

I worry that OC's being considered would have trouble getting that correct on the first go along with trying to take on double duty of calling plays/running the offense. On top of that, I have some hesitations with the 3 most people are being considered:

• Byron has really only been a coach with Arians, so i'm not sure what change ups he would use if that method doesn't work.
  
• Daboll who only really had success as OC with Allen as QB (though he prior OC seasons he was dealt really poor cards), so I'm a bit hesitant if his recent run is purely player dependant.
  
• Bienemmy whose prior coaching experience has been Andy Reid (good) and Darell Bevel (ugh.), so basically the same questions as with Byron and Daboll.
  

I know that ideally you want to maximize Lawrence's rookie contract to build a contender and win a title now, but I just don't think that is realistically possible given the state of the team and lack of cohesiveness of the football side.

Additionally, the competition in the AFC with young gifted QB's -- Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Allen, Lamar, Jones, and Watson if he ever plays agains -- means that just having a great QB will probably not be enough to just get to the Super Bowl during Lawrence's career. He will need good pieces around him, and a coaching staff that can scheme for him, find weaknesses in other teams, and make adjustments on the fly.


It really comes down to how they interview and how they lay out their plans (not just the A plan, but the B-Z plans when obstacles or issues pop up) to the decision makers.

Let's see

Bucs Arians former OC
49ers K. Shanahan former OC with Garoppolo
Bengals Zac Taylor former QB coach
GB Matt Lafleur former OC
Rams Sean McVay former OC

Others

Nick Sirianni
Frank Reich

There are more and they all are much better than what we've had in years.

Is the goal just better than Jags have been since early 00's or Super Bowl win/bust?

True, it may still be too early to judge Shanahan, Taylor, LaFleur, McVay, and Sirianni on the latter scale, but none have won that yet.

Also, you cannot just choose all the successes. You would have see the percentage successes versus all the failures.

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