(02-03-2022, 02:56 PM)Firesky Wrote:

(02-03-2022, 11:15 AM)Steelecrow Wrote: Schottenheimer also ran the offense the two weeks prior to Indy, including the drubbing the Pats gave us. 

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In the first half, with the bad picks by Trevor aside (poor decisions imho) the offense as a whole looked better. The bigger problem was the Defense allowing 4 TD's on the Pats first 4 drives and the game was out of reach before halftime. The truth doesn't mesh with you looking at a box score

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(02-03-2022, 11:21 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: Are you really that out of touch with how an NFL offense works? Methinks so.
I'll help ya:
During the week, after scouting the opposing defense, an offensive gameplan is put together. It's a collaborative effort. Bev, Schotty and the position coaches come up with a scheme and fine-tune it in practice. On gameday, the first 15 or so plays are scripted. Aside from that, Bev and Schotty and Trevor are in direct communication. They talk things over in big moments.
Bev handed Schotty playcalling duties so he could be unencumbered and pay adequate attention to the rest if the team. It happens all the time.
But don't think for a minute that Schotty went rogue and just did his own thing. I know the sensationalism is thick around here, but I can assure you that didn't happen.
And Trevor said himself that he worked well with Bev, so I'll take his word over yours.

Are you out of touch with how playcalling in the NFL works? Methinks so. Let me break it down for you.

Every coach has input on the gameplan and initial script. After the first 10 or so plays the game gets handed over to the coordinator/play caller and they adapt and pick the play that works for each situation. Bevell did a poor job of that, Schotty did a better job although not completely satisfactory.

Offense under Bevell looks anemic, and can't stay on the field. Offense under Schotty ACTUALLY MOVED THE BALL AND LOOKED BALANCED, CREATIVE, AND COMPETENT!!!!  This happened with Schotty calling the plays, obviously all coaches have an input on the game plan. But when Bevell removed himself from the equation we improved. The common denominator was Bevells involvement and a direct correlation between how involved he was and the success of the offense. So we just suddenly started calling more misdirection plays and got creative magically? NO that happened after Bev gave up playcalling, use the eyetest!!!

"And Trevor said himself that he worked well with Bev, so I'll take his word over yours." .... Until he's not he's his coach, why would Trevor defame him or speak honestly if they may have to still work together? It's like when Shad asks a candidate if they'll work with Baalke as Baalke is sitting in the room. Also the results speak for themselves, nothing about our offense (sans the close of the season) "worked well" so i'll trust my eyes over Trevor's quote or your condescending opinion.

In the post before this, you said the offense, with Schotty calling plays, broke down in the Pats game because Trevor had some rookie moments. What do you think Bev encountered all season? Rookie moments, along with dropped balls, illtimed drive-killing penalties and the Urban factor.

And the misdirection plays were part of Bev's offense. He designed it, with imput from Schotty.

I know blaming the OC is the knee-jerk thing to do. Every fanbase does it. But you have to remember that this year was about taking the training wheels off of Trevor. And keeping jim upright. You might disagree, but I think this was an eye-opening year of learning for Trevor. He started a whopping 17 games and finished them all. You might opine differently, but I think Trevor is sincere when bringing up his admiration for Bev -- and Schotty. I'd speculate that there was some bad cop/good cop going in behind closed doors ... who do you think his safe harbor was, telling him to keep his chin up?

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