(02-04-2022, 10:16 AM)Firesky Wrote:

(02-04-2022, 01:10 AM)JaggedSioux Wrote: The point is the Jags and Trevor were mire prepared as a team with both Bev and Schotty in charge. We arguably won the Jets game, so a 3-game improvement over the previous year with a rookie signal caller and a toxic environment was quite an improvement.
The burnt-out aspect of your analysis is yotal fabrication, by the way.

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Na. I actually like Pederson. He's from the Andy Reid tree and used to work with Brad Childress, another coach I liked.

LMAO. how is it fabrication? Bevell was at his peak as the Seattle OC. He was ousted from there for being too pass happy & unbalanced. In Detroit (even with Stafford) his team goes 3-12-1 his first year;  and then 5-11 his next.  He was so good as an OC that Matt Stafford wanted OUT of Detroit entirely. He's washed dude. Anyone with eyes that saw how horrific our offense was can see this. I'm starting to think you have some sort of familial relation to Bevell bc there's no other explanation why you'd be so high on a guy with a lack of results to this degree.

Ditto for Schotty, he literally replaced Bevell in Seattle and their offense immediately looked better and improved. The same thing happens again in Jacksonville and you're like "nah Bevell is better than Schotty" ... It's literally happened twice and you're blind to it. Both coaches were great once upon a time, but the game has clearly passed them by!! There is nothing to like about Bevell and only slightly more to like about Schotty.

One thing that you failed to recognize is that an OC must mold his offense within the directive of the head coach. Pete Carroll is old school. He likes a strong defense with minimal turnovers on offense, i.e., fewer risks. Bevell's offenses, with a young QB, did just that and got to 2 Super Bowls.
Patricia wanted a similar approach at Detroit. When he lost interest and basically turned things over to Bev, Stafford cooked. He actually said he'd seriously consider staying with the Lions and rescind his trade request if Bev was given the head job when it opened.
Look, you're obviously just a boxscore type of guy. Your knee-jerk comments are from proof you see right in front of your nose.
But there are many layers to a good offense. Bev was tasked with molding a rookie. There were going to be struggles. But they got through it and Trevor showed progress.

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