(02-04-2022, 11:09 PM)JaggedSioux Wrote:

(02-04-2022, 05:32 PM)Firesky Wrote: So you're saying that a HC that values running the ball, and playing mistake free to complement a good defense like Carroll. Just allowed Bev to make what is panned as the worst playcall in sb history leading to an interception on the goalline rather than handing the ball to Marshawn Lynch with 1 yard needed for a ring. Yes HC's construct the vision of the team, and the OC adapts that to personnel, Bev at every stop (Seattle, Detroit, and here) has been too pass happy [look at that superbowl loss for exhibit A] and his complete disregard for balance on offense has been his demise at every stop. Stafford came out with that praise "oh i totally would've stayed if this & that etc." AFTER he got traded. real ringing endorsement. Obviously a QB in an offense that refuses to run the ball will post gaudy stats, that's the result of being pass happy and unbalanced ...  In Bev's 1st season in Detroit (doing what Patricia's vision is) they're 16th in rushing attempts ... the next season as the keys are handed to Bev they're 30th in rushing attempts. and all that "cooking" resulted in an extra 1.5 wins. The Jags aversion to the run this year is just how Bevell likes to play offense .. the evidence is there in Bevell's previous stops!! It's literally just who he is as a coach and its supported by statistical evidence!

What about my comments makes you think I just watch boxscores? What about it is knee-jerk? I have 13 games of tape/proof that Bevell was TERRIBLE as an Offensive Coordinator who lacked any semblance of balance, he wasn't much better in Detroit which is why he was here last year. Also we were literally just talking about the Patriots game and how (despite trevor's picks/bad decisons) the offense moved the ball better with Bevell less involved; that's the opposite of watching box-scores and knee jerk reactions. The mental gymnastics you have are astounding. Also you keep changing the narrative and not answer questions so I will ask again:

"If the creative playcalls, misdirection plays, and overall success we saw in the season finale were always part of Bev's offense/design and credit is due to him not Schotty calling the plays to end the season, .... then why didn't Bev call those same plays that are allegedly in his playbook during the first 13 games when he had control?!?" Even with Urban gone as he kept playcalling duties, those plays weren't called. Why did Schotty call those plays but not Bev? Answer that.

Trevor showed progress this year IN SPITE OF Bevell and the coaching staff. Either you're Bevell's burner account or you're braindead i'm not sure which.

Yes you are a knee-jerk boxscore fanatic who can't see farther than the nose on your face. The plays were basically the same. The execution, which had been lacking pretty much all season, came together in the Indy game. Maybe that could be attributed to better practices once Urban was gone.
As for Seattle and the Super Bowl call. First off, Pete Carroll called for the pass as part of a plan to maximize down and distance. Bev made the playcall, a play that had worked 90% of the time in short yardage situations that season. The main flaw in it was that Lockette drifted too much toward the goalline on his route, allowing Butler the chance for the pick when Wilson threw the pass high.
Marshawn, who had been given the ball the play before and could've scored then, was no certainty to score. His track record in and-1 situations wasn't that great. He could have fumbled, as well.
And I totally disagree about Bevell being pass-happy. But when you're down 20 points at the half or you have no run game because your best back or backs are injured, you have to pass. 
And really when you think of it, who cares this year. You could look at those as good in-game reps for Trevor. The team was going nowhere this year, so why not let Trevor learn while live bullets are flying?

The lengths you'll go to to excuse Bevell's ineptitude is astounding. I'm using my eyes, knee jerk would be week 1 after the texans game. I watched him call plays for like 80% of the season and he was bad, I don't need a boxscore to tell me how inept he was ... we all witnessed it. His playcalling and refusal to run has been a problem even in Seattle when they played with leads and had plenty of talent... your arguments make no sense. The "Let Russ Cook" movement was to oust Bevell, because even with a high pass volume the offense wasn't clicking. What more proof do you need?

https://detroitjockcity.com/2020/11/13/d...ll-bevell/ It's the same movie here and the ending hasn't changed. Bevell is a bad OC, and his continued presence would have stunted Trevor Lawrence's growth as a QB.

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