Virtually everyone agrees he's the purely best player in the draft. 

We definitely need another safety. 

Safety is not a low value position anymore. It's not a top tier value, but it's firmly in the middle.

The case can be made why we shouldn't take literally everyone else, other than the false safety positional value argument I don't think anyone can poke a hole in Hamilton.

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Virtually everyone agrees he's the purely best player in the draft. 

We definitely need another safety. 

Safety is not a low value position anymore. It's not a top tier value, but it's firmly in the middle.

The case can be made why we shouldn't take literally everyone else, other than the false safety positional value argument I don't think anyone can poke a hole in Hamilton.

I just cannot take a Safety #1 overall, just as I cannot select a RB in round 1. It's just not in my nature. If I for some crazy reason, pass on edge rusher at the #1 spot, I'm selecting CB Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. He is my #3 overall player.

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I would take Gardner over Hamilton. Gardner did not surrender a TD in his college career and he has the best QB rating when targeted in college history per the summary over at nfldraftbuzz. He's also a fan of sticking his nose in the running game. He's got the potential to be one of those lockdown guys in the NFL.

Hamilton is okay. I don't think he's Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu or Sean Taylor though. Which is why I would pass to begin with. This defense still has a lot of work to do with the front seven. Taking Hamilton just seems like a blown opportunity.

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Virtually everyone agrees he's the purely best player in the draft. 

We definitely need another safety. 

Safety is not a low value position anymore. It's not a top tier value, but it's firmly in the middle.

The case can be made why we shouldn't take literally everyone else, other than the false safety positional value argument I don't think anyone can poke a hole in Hamilton.

Virtually everyone agrees he's the purely best player in the draft?  I'm super high on Hamilton but i haven't seen one ranking that has him at the top lol.  Show me all these player rankings with Hamilton at the top

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Virtually everyone agrees he's the purely best player in the draft. 

We definitely need another safety. 

Safety is not a low value position anymore. It's not a top tier value, but it's firmly in the middle.

The case can be made why we shouldn't take literally everyone else, other than the false safety positional value argument I don't think anyone can poke a hole in Hamilton.

I just cannot take a Safety #1 overall, just as I cannot select a RB in round 1. It's just not in my nature. If I for some crazy reason, pass on edge rusher at the #1 spot, I'm selecting CB Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. He is my #3 overall player.

Safety and RB are not in the same tier of importance. In fact, I would put safety in the same tier as OT. A really bad LT can probably lose you more games than a really bad S will, but I strongly believe that a really good S will win you more games than a really good LT will. For example, Ed Reed is going to win you a lot more games than Boselli would. I think Kyle Hamilton will impact winning more than any OT in this draft.

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I just cannot take a Safety #1 overall, just as I cannot select a RB in round 1. It's just not in my nature. If I for some crazy reason, pass on edge rusher at the #1 spot, I'm selecting CB Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. He is my #3 overall player.

Safety and RB are not in the same tier of importance. In fact, I would put safety in the same tier as OT. A really bad LT can probably lose you more games than a really bad S will, but I strongly believe that a really good S will win you more games than a really good LT will. For example, Ed Reed is going to win you a lot more games than Boselli would.

I love Reed and is my favorite safety ever along with Bob Sanders.  But if I can pick Ed Reed or Barry Sanders give my Barry all day

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I just cannot take a Safety #1 overall, just as I cannot select a RB in round 1. It's just not in my nature. If I for some crazy reason, pass on edge rusher at the #1 spot, I'm selecting CB Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner. He is my #3 overall player.

Safety and RB are not in the same tier of importance. In fact, I would put safety in the same tier as OT. A really bad LT can probably lose you more games than a really bad S will, but I strongly believe that a really good S will win you more games than a really good LT will. For example, Ed Reed is going to win you a lot more games than Boselli would. I think Kyle Hamilton will impact winning more than any OT in this draft.

I could not possibly disagree more.

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Safety just as important as LT, lmao

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Safety just as important as LT, lmao

There is nuance, as I tried to explain. It's more important to have a solid LT than it is to have a solid safety, but at the elite level a safety is going to win more games than an elite LT.

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The case for Hamilton at one begins and ends with "Your GM is trying to get a job in the Notre Dame athletics department"

We just took Cisco last year, are we giving up on him already?

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The case for Hamilton at one begins and ends with "Your GM is trying to get a job in the Notre Dame athletics department"

We just took Cisco last year, are we giving up on him already?

You do realize we play 2 Safeties, right? 

Rayshawn Jenkins was a mess last season. He would likely be the one who would be replaced.

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Until the front seven can consistently get after the QB and clean up their act in the ground game. I don't think you can justify taking a safety. It's the last line of defense.

32 sacks as a team last year in a 17 game season. They also seemed to get crush in the ground game more than anything due to poor tackling, getting pushed around at the point of attack and blown gap assignments.

If anything. Citing Hamilton as your top overall pick exposes the need to probably take a DE or even a LB over Hamilton. Could make a case for Nakobe Dean at LB over Kyle Hamilton at safety in all actuality.

Dean would offer more value in pass coverage, more speed in blitz packages and better lateral quickness against the ground game.

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Until the front seven can consistently get after the QB and clean up their act in the ground game. I don't think you can justify taking a safety. It's the last line of defense.

What if Hutch runs a 7.5 3 cone and Thibs continues putting off these weird vibes in interviews that is apparently turning everyone off?

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The Jaguars aren't replacing Jenkins as his salary cap hit is too much. He and Cisco will be the starting safeties unless either gets injured. The Jaguars have way greater needs than upgrading the safety position. Pass rusher, offensive line and wide receiver need immediate attention with linebacker and tight end closely behind.

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Until the front seven can consistently get after the QB and clean up their act in the ground game. I don't think you can justify taking a safety. It's the last line of defense.

What if Hutch runs a 7.5 3 cone and Thibs continues putting off these weird vibes in interviews that is apparently turning everyone off?

You trust the tape on Hutchinson in this scenario and get creative in the scheming and coaching field to improve his technique to where a cone drill is the least of your concerns.

This is from nfldraftbuzz though about Hutchinson.

"Last offseason, Hutchinson timed 6.54 in the 3-cone, which would’ve been better than anyone at the 2020 combine. Also he vertical jumped 36 inches, ran a 4.64 40, and logged a 4.07 shuttle time".

If Hamilton was in the discussion as the next Sean Taylor, Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu? I would be inclined to favor him. There's injury concerns with him and he's also been inconsistent at times despite a freakish frame and elite athletic ability. Heard that before when Taylor Mays came out of the USC.



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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

What if Hutch runs a 7.5 3 cone and Thibs continues putting off these weird vibes in interviews that is apparently turning everyone off?

You trust the tape on Hutchinson in this scenario and get creative in the scheming and coaching field to improve his technique to where a cone drill is the least of your concerns.

This is from nfldraftbuzz though about Hutchinson.

"Last offseason, Hutchinson timed 6.54 in the 3-cone, which would’ve been better than anyone at the 2020 combine. Also he vertical jumped 36 inches, ran a 4.64 40, and logged a 4.07 shuttle time".

If Hamilton was in the discussion as the next Sean Taylor, Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu? I would be inclined to favor him. There's injury concerns with him and he's also been inconsistent at times despite a freakish frame and elite athletic ability. Heard that before when Taylor Mays came out of the USC.

I know, I know, and Kwity Paye ran a 6.3 3 cone...fastest in history for any position. Deion Sanders has nothing on Kwity when it comes to change of direction skills.

Or maybe, just maybe, Michigan is lying through their teeth about their times.

We all saw that clip of Hutchinson windmilling around the edge like Andre Branch 2.0. Guys that run all time great 3 cones don't glitch around the corner like that.

EDIT: and yeah, I actually have seen people say Hamilton is the best safety since Taylor.

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The case for Hamilton at one begins and ends with "Your GM is trying to get a job in the Notre Dame athletics department"

We just took Cisco last year, are we giving up on him already?

You do realize we play 2 Safeties, right? 

Rayshawn Jenkins was a mess last season. He would likely be the one who would be replaced.

Guess I'm a weirdo, I'm looking for the heavy hitter SS to pair with our FS.

And if I've already got a ballhawk in the defensive backfield, Hamilton is going to have to be far and away the greatest player in the darft for me to take him over any other player of similar ranking at a position which we have a greater need.

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Single high safety is quickly dying in the NFL. Cannon arm QBs like Stafford, Mahomes, Allen, Herbert absolutely torch it, and you aren't getting through the season without having to beat a few of those types. If you want a heavy hitter throwback SS you better have a unicorn at FS like Earl Thomas, and as much as I like Cisco he isn't playing a real sideline to sideline role. Otherwise cover 2 is what you need, and almost guaranteed what we will play primarily. Hamilton and Cisco would be a phenomenal pairing.

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