A link to each one of these would have been nice to prove they are actual CNN posts. Otherwise, how do we know this isn’t a fake claiming to show a fake?

Regardless, this thread has taken a curious and interesting turn. 

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A link to each one of these would have been nice to prove they are actual CNN posts. Otherwise, how do we know this isn’t a fake claiming to show a fake?

Regardless, this thread has taken a curious and interesting turn. 

This is fake also. The tweets I think were real but not by the real CNN. Generally if there is only a screen shot, it's probably fake or modified.

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The Sun: Russian space chief threatens to allow ISS to FALL onto US or Europe....
https://www.the-sun.com/tech/4770269/iss...us-europe/

With the new sanctions that are presently being put in place to counter Russia's actions, their Space Chief has threatened to allow the ISS to fall out of the sky. The U.S. (Air Conditioning heating and solar maintenances ) and Russia (engine maintenance and propulsion) shares responsibilities of maintaining the Space Station. Since the ISS only hovers above the U.S. and some parts of Europe, Russian residents wouldn't be affected so let it fall.

Now the likelihood of Russia actually cutting said power, it's simply another threat from a Communist Country.

Time Will Tell.

NH3...

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"AZANE"

Tragic as this is, it's also interesting. This might wind up being a lesson for all fans of authoritarian rulers- when you stifle dissent, and surround yourself with yes-men, you don't get all the information you need to make an intelligent decision. In the days leading up to this, apparently, there wasn't a single person in Putin's inner circle who was willing to tell him this was a bad idea.

Democracies might be slower to act than a dictatorship, but the huge advantage of a free society is the ability to argue openly about things.

It's a fluid situation, unpredictable to be sure, but there's a growing possibility that this is a colossal disaster for Putin.

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Is it a disaster for Putin though? Or is that what the media wants us to think and feel? Looking from his view. NATO wants Ukraine. Western culture, western rule and western military power are inching closer and closer to the East.

How many bases on the globe does Russia have in comparison to our Government and NATO? It's an ugly truth that many Americans don't want to face and don't want to hear. We're the big bad wolves here. And those big bad wolves are backed by big bad crooks in our own Government.

You can't say that's propaganda when you have lefties and righties going at it non stop now in our own Country. I wonder how we would feel if the East had all the power that we have and they were inching closer and closer to us and forcing us into a corner.

This feels more like a publicity stunt by the media and it feels like Putin is getting desperate in fear of losing control. China is in the same position. Join or die. Seems pretty obvious. Politics has not changed one bit. It's old rich men talking. And young men dying.

Doesn't mean Putin's right. Doesn't mean he's wrong though neither.



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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Should know better by now not to buy into the majority of what the mainstream says.

Gulf War.
War on Terror.
Iraq War.
War in Afghanistan.

We find out later all these wars were fought and based on lies and false pretenses. Always spoon fed to the American people.

Forgive me if I come off a little skeptical or like I am wearing a tinfoil hat here.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Tragic as this is, it's also interesting.  This might wind up being a lesson for all fans of authoritarian rulers- when you stifle dissent, and surround yourself with yes-men, you don't get all the information you need to make an intelligent decision.  In the days leading up to this, apparently, there wasn't a single person in Putin's inner circle who was willing to tell him this was a bad idea. 

Democracies might be slower to act than a dictatorship, but the huge advantage of a free society is the ability to argue openly about things. 

It's a fluid situation, unpredictable to be sure, but there's a growing possibility that this is a colossal disaster for Putin.

My guess is they didn't say anything, because they didn't want to "disappear" or be sent to a Siberian prison camp.

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Is it a disaster for Putin though? Or is that what the media wants us to think and feel? Looking from his view. NATO wants Ukraine. Western culture, western rule and western military power are inching closer and closer to the East.

How many bases on the globe does Russia have in comparison to our Government and NATO? It's an ugly truth that many Americans don't want to face and don't want to hear. We're the big bad wolves here. And those big bad wolves are backed by big bad crooks in our own Government.

You can't say that's propaganda when you have lefties and righties going at it non stop now in our own Country. I wonder how we would feel if the East had all the power that we have and they were inching closer and closer to us and forcing us into a corner.

This feels more like a publicity stunt by the media and it feels like Putin is getting desperate in fear of losing control. China is in the same position. Join or die. Seems pretty obvious. Politics has not changed one bit. It's old rich men talking. And young men dying.

Doesn't mean Putin's right. Doesn't mean he's wrong though neither.



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Who cares how many bases we have? We have these bases, because we have built relations with our allies over the years and they feel safer with our military presence. They feel this way, because of imperialistic, corrupt, dictators like Putin, who might "get a wild hair up his butt" and decide to invade their country. Maybe if leaders like Putin lightened up and actually stopped committing human rights violations, there wouldn't have to be a NATO. 

Young men are dying, because men like Putin want total control over those that they rule. They want dissenters imprisoned and executed and they want unquestioned power. He didn't like that a country which was once part of the Soviet Union was about to align itself with the west in the name of freedom. He knew any influence he would have over Ukraine in the future would never happen if they joined NATO. It's all about power and ego. This is what happens when you allow your country to fall into the hands of a narcissistic, mob boss with deep, deep ties to the KGB. 

It TOTALLY means Putin is wrong. Even questioning this is questioning freedom and pretty much everything America was founded on. Putin is no different than Hitler.

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Putin has heightened the alert of his nuclear forces. I'm reminded of this:

https://youtu.be/FaPs8OXDrrI

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Putin has heightened the alert of his nuclear forces. I'm reminded of this:

https://youtu.be/FaPs8OXDrrI

That's one of the greatest movies of all time.

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Is it a disaster for Putin though? Or is that what the media wants us to think and feel? Looking from his view. NATO wants Ukraine. Western culture, western rule and western military power are inching closer and closer to the East.

How many bases on the globe does Russia have in comparison to our Government and NATO? It's an ugly truth that many Americans don't want to face and don't want to hear. We're the big bad wolves here. And those big bad wolves are backed by big bad crooks in our own Government.

You can't say that's propaganda when you have lefties and righties going at it non stop now in our own Country. I wonder how we would feel if the East had all the power that we have and they were inching closer and closer to us and forcing us into a corner.

This feels more like a publicity stunt by the media and it feels like Putin is getting desperate in fear of losing control. China is in the same position. Join or die. Seems pretty obvious. Politics has not changed one bit. It's old rich men talking. And young men dying.

Doesn't mean Putin's right. Doesn't mean he's wrong though neither.



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Who cares how many bases we have? We have these bases, because we have built relations with our allies over the years and they feel safer with our military presence. They feel this way, because of imperialistic, corrupt, dictators like Putin, who might "get a wild hair up his butt" and decide to invade their country. Maybe if leaders like Putin lightened up and actually stopped committing human rights violations, there wouldn't have to be a NATO. 

Young men are dying, because men like Putin want total control over those that they rule. They want dissenters imprisoned and executed and they want unquestioned power. He didn't like that a country which was once part of the Soviet Union was about to align itself with the west in the name of freedom. He knew any influence he would have over Ukraine in the future would never happen if they joined NATO. It's all about power and ego. This is what happens when you allow your country to fall into the hands of a narcissistic, mob boss with deep, deep ties to the KGB. 

It TOTALLY means Putin is wrong. Even questioning this is questioning freedom and pretty much everything America was founded on. Putin is no different than Hitler.

Yep yep well put.

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You're right that there are fake videos and reports from both sides.  Neither side has any incentive to tell the whole truth.
I think we're having a healthy skepticism about most of it.  The truth will come out in time.
As for your allegation that this is not an "open war" because Ukraine still has a lot of their utilities running, Fox News is reporting that Russia just hit Kiev's main oil storage facility.  Russia seems to be trying to get Ukraine to surrender with as little damage as possible.  But Russia can and will escalate the pressure each day.

I agree on the open war escalating. I saw something about internet being taken out but haven't looked to see if it was true. Then saw something about Elon sending satellites to get it back up. No clue to the truth of it but I do think it will turn into an open war if Putin doesn't get whatever his objective is.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo...ore-228606

Wow...

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That is just touching tip of the iceberg. Even the tank running over the car has moved further into the faked category.

https://youtu.be/djSiLxsCTmg

Also odd.

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I saw that. He also has a WEF profile but that doesn't guarantee he is elite scum. He seems to be friends with the Polish leader and they are not a liberal country for the most part.

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Putin has heightened the alert of his nuclear forces. I'm reminded of this:

https://youtu.be/FaPs8OXDrrI

That's one of the greatest movies of all time.

Agreed. Stanley Kubrick was the best.


What is up with the reply function quoting the thread?

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*sigh* 

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022...e3c2ebd6d4

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NATO's history is not perfect. Turkey and Greece were dictatorships when we let them in. But they're democracies now, and want to continue in NATO. West Germany was already occupied by us when they gave us "permission" to continue, but, again, they've been democratic for decades and still want to stay in. When Poland and the Baltic states had their first free and fair elections, they immediately asked to join NATO.
In areas that the Russian military has occupied, there have never been democratic elections or even any freedom to speak against the Russian military presence. Same story, whether we're talking about Tsars or communists or kleptocrats.
Russia are for sure the villains in this story, it's not even close.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Order your Ukraine flag shirt today for the low low price of $19.99

Actually, I did two days ago.

Viva Ukraine.

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Order your Ukraine flag shirt today for the low low price of $19.99

Actually, I did two days ago.

Viva Ukraine.

Order soon. The price goes up to 40 rubles next week. 

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Who cares how many bases we have? We have these bases, because we have built relations with our allies over the years and they feel safer with our military presence. They feel this way, because of imperialistic, corrupt, dictators like Putin, who might "get a wild hair up his butt" and decide to invade their country. Maybe if leaders like Putin lightened up and actually stopped committing human rights violations, there wouldn't have to be a NATO. 

Young men are dying, because men like Putin want total control over those that they rule. They want dissenters imprisoned and executed and they want unquestioned power. He didn't like that a country which was once part of the Soviet Union was about to align itself with the west in the name of freedom. He knew any influence he would have over Ukraine in the future would never happen if they joined NATO. It's all about power and ego. This is what happens when you allow your country to fall into the hands of a narcissistic, mob boss with deep, deep ties to the KGB. 

It TOTALLY means Putin is wrong. Even questioning this is questioning freedom and pretty much everything America was founded on. Putin is no different than Hitler.

You must have drank the kool-aid today. Russia is not the same as it has been in the past. They aren't communist anymore. Russia isn't a free country but it's definitely not what it used to be. Deep ties to the KGB, do you know who is running the US with no oversight? It's the intelligence agencies and their representatives. NATO is a globalist organization, Putin doesn't like globalist because they want what is best for them and not their individual members. NATO is socialism lite and if the globalist get their way, they will control everything. Putin sees that and is protecting Russia as he is looking out for Russian interests. It's the same thing every leader should do.

You may not agree with it but it makes sense from their viewpoint. So far Putin has stuck to what they have said about not attacking the people and only wanting to rid the country of the nazis and globalist. Who knows if that will hold or not. You also ignore all the atrocities that the Russian people in Ukraine have faced at the hands of the neo-nazis. Also all the corruption that continues to hurt the people. It started decades ago but continues even today with their false freedom.

This isn't really Russia vs Ukraine, it's globalist vs individualists.

That doesn't mean Putin won't cross the line and try to occupy and kill citizens. They aren't right now and based on the propaganda numbers put out from Ukraine, they haven't lost many troops and they have killed a bunch of Russian troops. If Putin wanted to he could bomb everything but so far he appears to trying to kill as little as possible.

It's the same thing that the US has done to other countries when we haven't agreed with their leaders.

NATO's history is not perfect. Turkey and Greece were dictatorships when we let them in. But they're democracies now, and want to continue in NATO. West Germany was already occupied by us when they gave us "permission" to continue, but, again, they've been democratic for decades and still want to stay in. When Poland and the Baltic states had their first free and fair elections, they immediately asked to join NATO.
In areas that the Russian military has occupied, there have never been democratic elections or even any freedom to speak against the Russian occupation. Same story, whether we're talking about Tsars or communists or kleptocrats.
Russia are for sure the villains in this story, it's not even close.

While Russia has persecuted their people, you are just trading one dictator for a collective dictatorship. NATO is the globalist way to control the world. Neither of them are right and Russia has a terrible history. As long as Russia doesn't move to an open war and just tries to remove the nazi groups and corrupt leaders, then they could be viewed as right in this situation. I don't like Russia persecuting their people or occupying other countries but so far this situation isn't that yet.

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There are neo-nazis, or at least people who think Germany should have won WWII, in every country, even Russia.
They are not significant in any country in any sense.
The claim that there are so many neo-nazis in Ukraine that Russia had to act to protect Russians is absolutely bonkers. People have been allowed to leave Ukraine for Russia up until the war started. They could also go to the Donbass separatist areas, if they felt oppressed. Anyone who says otherwise is parroting Putin, parroting Russian propaganda.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Seeing so many in my side of the political spectrum making excuses for Russia if not just openly supporting Russia has me questioning lot of things. How can you say your for liberty independence and freedom and side with Russia who is also the same as China.

I was a big fan of Tuckers until now. But he’s not alone I’ve seen many on the right essential side with Russia? How?

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Seeing so many in my side of the political spectrum making excuses for Russia if not just openly supporting Russia has me questioning lot of things. How can you say your for liberty independence and freedom and side with Russia who is also the same as China.

I was a big fan of Tuckers until now. But he’s not alone I’ve seen many on the right essential side with Russia? How?

How did tucker Carlson support Russia?

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