(04-05-2022, 04:05 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:

(04-05-2022, 01:28 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Any proprietary metric should be taken with a grain of salt.

It's why we buffer PFF ratings around here pretty universally and this is no different. 

Regardless, it's a good sign that some person(s) at a well visited sporting website came to that conclusion on Lawrence. 
Even if you temper the number.

Exactly. Stafford had 601 passing attempts, 400+ completions. Trevor had 602 passing attempts with around 300 completions. 

In no world, did one guy throw more catchable passes and have 100 less completions on the same amount of attempts. Unless you want to tell me we had nearly 100 drops.


The "catchable pass" stat is bogus in this regard and anyone with eyes knows it. And for the other guy I'm talking to who claimed that only 7 of those ints were on Trevor is blind. I'm not biased against Trevor, but you are biased for him.

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No, not exactly. 

Your numbers are inaccurate. 
Trevor Lawrence had 359 completions. 
Stafford had 435. 

This accounts for the 7.6% difference in their completion percentages. 

And there are several ways a catchable pass can be incomplete besides a "drop." 
 
Anyone with eyes  should be able to see that this kid has more potential than any QB to come through Jacksonville since it was awarded a team. He merely needs improved consistency and an improved supporting cast. 

It will be interesting to see if you are still clinging to your poorly formed negative stance on Trevor Lawrence's rookie season when the Fall arrives and he's had some time to thrive in a better system.

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(04-05-2022, 04:11 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:

(04-05-2022, 01:22 PM)cland Wrote: In all fairness, I want to see where the '83.8 catchable rate' comes from--other than a reddit post.  I checked the referred to athletic post but's it's protected by a pay wall.  What I could read seems to be a little off... as it's using a proprietary QB metric (ie. they won't share where they got the numbers.)

My general rule of thumb is that any metric that shows your rookie QB outperforming GOAT Tom Brady and the Superbowl winning QB should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

According to that article trevor had more catchable passes than Stafford/Brady/Russel Wilson and more.

Let's look at the real stats.

Stafford: 404 Completions 601 Attempts (67.2% comp)
Lawrence: 353 Completions 602 Attempts (59.6% comp)

I'm sorry, but you're trying to tell me the guy with almost a 10% less completion percentage, 51 less completions on one more attempt. You trying to tell me Trevor had 51 catchable passes dropped/missed MORE than Stafford, did Stafford have 0 drops and every catchable pass caught?

nah


Edit:

Just because I have eyes, and call things the way I see it does not mean I hate the jaguars, Trevor Lawrence, or any other player. The absolute only reason I even talk about his bad play is because I constantly see people praising him for nothing. Imagine this, Imagine all of last year every day you saw me post how good Taven Bryan was, constantly without reason. That's how I feel about the people riding Trevors [BLEEP].

You edited that post and still can't [BLEEP] get the numbers right??

LOL

What's the point of debate with you?
 Try being factual and stop listing inaccurate information to aid your crap argument.

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