(05-31-2022, 10:06 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(05-31-2022, 09:50 PM)Upper Wrote: The reports I read (and Mark Long went in depth in on the bold take pod) was that Urban started out with final say on everything, but he realized he was in over his head almost immediately and by FA it was already the Baalke show.

"Final say"

Seems that folks interpret this several different ways.

To me it implies a collaboration with one collaborator having veto power when a disagreement occurs. 

Secondly -  I never read anything about personnel becoming the Baalke show by the time free agency began. 

Lastly, do you agree that the Oliver dispatch/ Tebow add, the Farrell pick,  the Etienne pick, and the subsequent attempts to find free agents to fill Etienne's spot after injury were Baalke moves? All of that seemed very "Meyer show" to me.

Meyer was very front and center lamenting missing out on Kadarius Toney in the draft.  Sure sounded and felt like he was running the show last year to me.  Also once free agency opened up, he was front and center lamenting not being able to talk to free agents like he could with high school kids coming into college and guys started getting signed elsewhere.  Again, sounds like he was largely in control of the process to me and just didn’t get it.

Maybe Baalke let him hang himself in that regard.  But then we’d owe him a debt of gratitude.

Meyer poking his head into Baalke’s office a few weeks prior to the cincy game: “Just a heads up, I have a place in Cincinnati so I’m gonna stay a few days longer after our game there in a few weeks.”

Baalke: “Sure.  No problems here.  Have fun!”

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