(12-13-2021, 01:47 PM)SamusAranX Wrote:

(12-13-2021, 01:23 PM)Caldrac Wrote: It does when your coaches are not game planning and generating any scripts to be successful and keep a defense honest and on it's heels.

Carried the ball 6 times yesterday.

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Yep. It’s almost as if they are game planning to purposefully sabotage Trevor; which, I might be on to something. Trevor did talk with urban about having Robinson in the game more. 

So maybe six carries only (!) was Urban and bevell being petty and punishing Trevor for daring to ask for help. 

You [YouMadThough] ask where is the QB who elevates those around him. He. Is. A. Rookie. 95 percent of rookies, even those who went on to have legendary careers don’t “elevate” those around them their first year. Go look at first year records for HoF or recent very good QBs. Manning, Aikman, Montana, bradshaw, Kelly, Young, Fouts, Brees, Allen, Burrow, and more, they all posted .500 or below their rookie years. For every Wilson and Mahomes, there’s a dozen who didn’t walk into a stacked team and had a bad first year. And even Mahomes has looked mortal when, surprise! Earlier in the year. Teams have game planned his weapons away and the defense played horrific. His obituaries were being written. But look at his staff. They adjusted. They circled the wagons. This staff has done none of that and has been petty by purposefully taking weapons away from Trevor then lying to shift blame. Not only is this team not stacked, urban and co. had a ungodly amount of cap space and picks to improve the roster and somehow made it worse. That’s impossible for ANY rookie to overcome. 



Mac Jones, who everyone here slobbers over, isn’t “elevating” his team. He’s not throwing for 5000 yards and 40 touchdowns. For gods sake he just won a game where he threw twice! What’s happening is he has a staff that is building around him and scheming his strengths to give him that time to develop (or eventually sink; I’m not completely sold on him; eventually teams will counter and try to amplify his weaknesses). 

Many of the “fans” (not caldrac) here are being “contrary” and refuse to see the big picture. You build straw men to knock down, saying that we think Trevor is great, when in fact we’re not making judgement calls, but advocating to give the kid some god dang help because it’s impossible to evaluate him given he has to try and overcome massive hurdles, and has to do this while learning in the pros and taking his rookie lumps. You literally get gleeful when he doesn’t succeed. Get the heck out of here and don’t let the door hit you on the way out

Context is everything right? Mahomes took over a team that won 11 games the year before and they have a HOF coach.

Wilson joined one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and a defense that basically won games for him. Neither player was drafted 1st overall to the worst team in the league.

It's all crazy. No one is saying Lawrence is lighting it up at all. He hasn't played great. He has missed some throws and he has made some bad decisions. However, he is far from the biggest issue on the offense.

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