(12-23-2021, 06:02 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(12-23-2021, 05:39 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: When TL throws another dead [BLEEP] stinker this weekend what will the excuse be?  What's the preferred plan?  Play him until he's so [BLEEP] awful and unsalvageable that he can't even get a job as a backup?  Or will you finally agree with me that it is time to bench him, let him reset and get him a new frickin' QB coach, who cares what the coach costs?

By the way, anyone willing to admit I was also right about the key to Robinson getting more yards?  TL getting some game.  Robinson carried every single RB ball last weekend and still only got 75 yards.  Until the passing game is respected the running game will be worthless.  Offense requires balance.  TL not doing his part.

So given my response to you earlier, where I assert QBs need adequate time, adequate surrounding talent and adequate coaching to develop into stars, I'm curious to know what changed in the intervening day or so to change the analysis?

Has Trevor Lawrence had any more time? 

Maybe a day or two...but he's still in his rookie season.

Has Trevor Lawrence gotten any better talent around him?  No.

His best WR has been out since about week 5 or so.  His best TE (acquired circa week 3), has missed the last 4-5 games with an injury.  His best RB has been injured and inexplicably benched by a coach that never liked him and is no longer here.  The RB drafted to provide speed and receiving ability has missed the entire season.  His remaining WRs are slow and inconsistent (Shenault), slow and old (Marvin Jones), former first round busts (Treadwell/Auston) and a street free agent (Mickens).  His offensive line has been a sieve, especially from RT.

What.?  Was there a sudeen infusion of speed and ability at WR that I somehow missed this week?  Did Santa suddenly place competent pass protection under the tree and allowed us to open the gifts early?

Has Trevor Lawrence received any better coaching since the beginning of the year?

No.

UM got fired last week.  The same scheme is still in place, run by the same coaches-minus Meyer.

None of those things are going to change until next year at the earliest.

Your opening question is patently silly and reeks of impatience.

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(12-23-2021, 05:53 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I hope you are correct but that has to be proven. I haven't seen many consistency or signs he is the future. 

I see a smart kid who has a big arm and tough. Sometimes that's not enough.  I already stated he gets a mulligan for this year but that does not dismiss his poor play.  It's not all coaching and supporting cast, he has made too many easy mistakes as well. 

Right now I am 50/50 on Lawrence with next year being a crucial one.  Sooner or later all these excuses for him are going to grow tired.  

0 proof right now he is an elite QB but plenty of evidence he may not be.

(emphasis added)

What "easy" mistakes are you referencing? 

I'm not saying he hasn't made any, because he has.  But that's to be expected of a rookie QB.

But I want to know what mistakes you are referencing, and more precisely, how do you know they are in no way attributable to surrounding talent?

Every game man. I watch every snap and every game there is a handful of easy throws most Qbs should hit and Lawrence is way off the mark. Missing way too many throws under 10 yards. PFF has Lawrence ranked at the bottom of starting Qbs and I agree with it.

He is missing 5 yard throws or making receivers work way too hard on medium to short passes. Both Prisco and Boselli were on the same page on jaguar happy hour this week.

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