(07-06-2022, 11:50 AM)cland Wrote: "Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in."  

Here is the problem with the watch the games, not the stats argument.  If the 'stats are not accurate and you have to watch the games' is true, then that event must happen somewhat regularly throughout the league to what are considered good QBs... The problem is after researching "good QBs" year to year stat lines, I haven't seen anything that supports that argument.

I looked at Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Ryan Tannehill, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and Baker Mayfield year to year stats; Yes I included a QB from the Factory of Sadness to preempt the we had a bad coach/team argument.  I haven't found a case during their careers, where there was one outlying (and qualified) year in which their stats "lied" in terms of TDs/INTs.  (ie. Ryan Tannehill never had a post-rookie year where he threw more INTs than TDs.)

What IS the case, is that some of them had a bad rookie year.  Some through more INTs than TDs in their rookie year.  Some had a QB rating that was subpar.  The good QBs improved in their 2nd year and beyond.  The bad QBs did not consistently improve.

Trevor Lawrence had a bad year whether you looked at his stats, watched him play, or both.  He wasn't the first QB with bad coaching or receivers who dropped the ball.  He will certainly get another year to improve with what is surely to be better coaching and an upgraded receiver core.  But there is nothing in his first year stats or tape to guarantee he will be a top ten QB.  There's also nothing that guarantees that he won't.

He had a bad year. The question is "how much of that was on him?" 

His percentage of bad play vs good play vs doing the best he could in a crap situation clearly indicate he should do much better in a better situation. 

There are some who can't see it that way. I get it. I simply question what they've analyzed and their ability to analyze it. 
He showed some rare talents in his rookie year that - if developed by a competent staff - will pay dividends in that stat line over the coming seasons. And that much appears obvious to me.

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