(07-14-2022, 09:36 PM)RicoTx Wrote: Like a moth to a flame…

(07-15-2022, 05:01 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(07-14-2022, 09:25 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: Not sure who this comment was directed towards, but if it was me. Absolutely not, Nick Foles was not at all very talented. 

Nick Foles is a very old school pocket passer kind of QB. I think the reason Lawrence was so interesting as a prospect was because he has the physical ability to do a little bit of everything, while also being a huge 6'6 QB. Ironically I think Travon Walker and Trevor Lawrence as prospects are about as similar as they could be. They have a very special combination of Physical attributes and ability. Lawrence has the ability to be very similar to Patrick Mahomes based purely on his physical ability... maybe not quite the same cannon arm, but fairly close. 

For me, as much as people think I hate Lawrence and I don't.. I just want to see him improve in the areas that worried me when he was coming out of college. My main issue with his play last year wasn't his stats or his win/loss record. It's that I basically saw all of the bad that I saw in Clemson, and very very little of the good from Clemson and almost no improvement. 

I really, really hope that he makes a big jump this year and has actually been putting in the effort in the off-season to correct his flaws.. we will know soon tho. Hoping for the best.

You saw lousy receivers running wrong routes and dropping passes at Clemson?  You saw a defense that was so bad that by the time he took the field he was forced to carry the whole team on his back and play from behind?  Clemson had the worst head coach of all time?  You saw all that at Clemson?  

I can answer those questions for you: no, no, no, and no.  

You're just trolling.  Get a life.  Don't drag this out for another hundred pages.

So you're telling me that every bad play, every mistake Trevor Lawrence made in one of the worst rookie seasons in recent memory, was soley the result of his coaching and WRs dropping passes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0Dg8qKPLQ

Unfortunately I don't have the time to make a video for you of every bad play he made last year, so let's go over just the interceptions in this video.

1. Scrambles, throws a high pass over a wide open WR. 100% his fault. Unless you want to blame the WR/Coaches for the WR being so open that Trevor couldn't hit him? idk.
2. 2nd a 9, panics under pressure and throws into triple coverage, WR was not open and it was not 3rd down.. throw the ball away.. Now while you could argue the play went nowhere because of poor playcalling, you can't tell me the interception is not his fault. Bad choice to throw the ball. Not to mention they were backed inside their own endzone with 2 mins left in the half. Also the tight end was wide open at the first down marker. ? poor decision. 
3. Panics under pressure, again. This time throwing it directly into a defenders hands.. two defenders in the area, intended target was 5-10 yards further down the field. Poor decision and throw under pressure..
4. Steps up, throws it late on the out and gets picked. No anticipation, but this actually is something I tend to put in the "rookie mistake" category, early in the season and still adjusting to the speed of the game.. you get away with that in college just not in the NFL.
5. 50/50 ball, this is a case where the WR being trash comes into play, cannot fault him for this one unless you want to get nit picky and say he shoulda thrown it further to the sideline but that's asking a lot of anyone especially a rookie.
6. Ball bounced outta the TEs hands, 100% not Trevors fault in any way. 
7. Flea flicker, thrown late.. terrible play call but still can't imagine why he would attempt this pass.. there was no way it was going anywhere but into a defenders hands.
8. Throws to a completely locked up WR in the endzone, gets picked off by the underneath guy.. Now there was no time left in the half so you could argue it didn't matter.. but you have a big tight end one on one on the left side.. and you throw it into a crowd of defenders?.. bad decision regardless.
9. WR had a step, ball was severly underthrown.
10. Panics when the pressure comes in, yeets the ball into double coverage.. terrible
11. Shenault at fault
12. lol. one of the worst ints i've ever seen, something i'd expect from Blaine Gabbert.
13. Again just yeeting the ball into double coverage, to [BLEEP] jaydon mickens of all wrs.
14. Triple coverage, what the hell was he thinking? 
15. 50/50 on the back, and on Trevor. Yes the ball was technically catchable but you're a professional NFL QB, how are you over throwing a 6 yard pass to a RB under 0 pressure.. 
16. Bad decision
17. Read #12 for explanation on this one. 


Regardless of where you want to point blame, and there was plenty to go around last year. He made plenty of mistakes that were 100% his doing. You cannot sit and blame everyone but him when he had as much to do with the failures as anyone else.

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(07-15-2022, 12:59 PM)Jag149 Wrote:

(07-15-2022, 09:21 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You didn't see offensive play calling so atrocious that they took a pre-seaon candidate for the pro bowl at running back and gave him half as many carries as Carlos [BLEEP] Hyde and then made the rookie throw it 51 times in the very first game. That's all you need to know, absent anything else, about how disgustingly awful last season was.

That is the first mistake. This guy doesn't see anything, he just makes it up as he goes along....lol

No, I just don't go full blind homer when it comes to discussing our team here. Notice guy here will point out how horrible the playcalling was, but is still able to tell us how horrific our WRs are? Why is that. Why isn't the play calling an excuse for them? It's only an excuse for the guy we took #1 overall... right?

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