(07-16-2022, 07:07 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(07-16-2022, 06:27 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Of course I'm not saying that every mistake Trevor made was someone else's fault.  I never said that. 

But I'm sure you could cherry-pick plays from any QB last year, and point to mistakes that were 100% the fault of that QB.  What you seem to be ignoring is the fact that Trevor was a rookie QB on the worst team in the league with the worst head coach in NFL history.

To go a step further, a lot of other QBs made the same kind of plays that turned out bad for Trevor, but were just incompletions, or even great catches for other QBs because they had much better receivers.

Everyone that understands football beyond just the raw stats watches him play and comes away understanding he actually played well and handled the team around him perfectly, it was everything around him that imploded.

Cjb's takes are going to look ridiculous pretty soon.

(07-16-2022, 01:12 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote:

(07-14-2022, 09:36 PM)RicoTx Wrote: Like a moth to a flame…

(07-15-2022, 05:01 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: You saw lousy receivers running wrong routes and dropping passes at Clemson?  You saw a defense that was so bad that by the time he took the field he was forced to carry the whole team on his back and play from behind?  Clemson had the worst head coach of all time?  You saw all that at Clemson?  

I can answer those questions for you: no, no, no, and no.  

You're just trolling.  Get a life.  Don't drag this out for another hundred pages.

So you're telling me that every bad play, every mistake Trevor Lawrence made in one of the worst rookie seasons in recent memory, was soley the result of his coaching and WRs dropping passes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B0Dg8qKPLQ

Unfortunately I don't have the time to make a video for you of every bad play he made last year, so let's go over just the interceptions in this video.

1. Scrambles, throws a high pass over a wide open WR. 100% his fault. Unless you want to blame the WR/Coaches for the WR being so open that Trevor couldn't hit him? idk.
2. 2nd a 9, panics under pressure and throws into triple coverage, WR was not open and it was not 3rd down.. throw the ball away.. Now while you could argue the play went nowhere because of poor playcalling, you can't tell me the interception is not his fault. Bad choice to throw the ball. Not to mention they were backed inside their own endzone with 2 mins left in the half. Also the tight end was wide open at the first down marker. ? poor decision. 
3. Panics under pressure, again. This time throwing it directly into a defenders hands.. two defenders in the area, intended target was 5-10 yards further down the field. Poor decision and throw under pressure..
4. Steps up, throws it late on the out and gets picked. No anticipation, but this actually is something I tend to put in the "rookie mistake" category, early in the season and still adjusting to the speed of the game.. you get away with that in college just not in the NFL.
5. 50/50 ball, this is a case where the WR being trash comes into play, cannot fault him for this one unless you want to get nit picky and say he shoulda thrown it further to the sideline but that's asking a lot of anyone especially a rookie.
6. Ball bounced outta the TEs hands, 100% not Trevors fault in any way. 
7. Flea flicker, thrown late.. terrible play call but still can't imagine why he would attempt this pass.. there was no way it was going anywhere but into a defenders hands.
8. Throws to a completely locked up WR in the endzone, gets picked off by the underneath guy.. Now there was no time left in the half so you could argue it didn't matter.. but you have a big tight end one on one on the left side.. and you throw it into a crowd of defenders?.. bad decision regardless.
9. WR had a step, ball was severly underthrown.
10. Panics when the pressure comes in, yeets the ball into double coverage.. terrible
11. Shenault at fault
12. lol. one of the worst ints i've ever seen, something i'd expect from Blaine Gabbert.
13. Again just yeeting the ball into double coverage, to [BLEEP] jaydon mickens of all wrs.
14. Triple coverage, what the hell was he thinking? 
15. 50/50 on the back, and on Trevor. Yes the ball was technically catchable but you're a professional NFL QB, how are you over throwing a 6 yard pass to a RB under 0 pressure.. 
16. Bad decision
17. Read #12 for explanation on this one. 


Regardless of where you want to point blame, and there was plenty to go around last year. He made plenty of mistakes that were 100% his doing. You cannot sit and blame everyone but him when he had as much to do with the failures as anyone else.

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(07-15-2022, 12:59 PM)Jag149 Wrote: That is the first mistake. This guy doesn't see anything, he just makes it up as he goes along....lol

No, I just don't go full blind homer when it comes to discussing our team here. Notice guy here will point out how horrible the playcalling was, but is still able to tell us how horrific our WRs are? Why is that. Why isn't the play calling an excuse for them? It's only an excuse for the guy we took #1 overall... right?