(07-16-2022, 06:27 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(07-16-2022, 01:12 AM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: So you're telling me that every bad play, every mistake Trevor Lawrence made in one of the worst rookie seasons in recent memory, was soley the result of his coaching and WRs dropping passes?

Regardless of where you want to point blame, and there was plenty to go around last year. He made plenty of mistakes that were 100% his doing. You cannot sit and blame everyone but him when he had as much to do with the failures as anyone else.

Of course I'm not saying that every mistake Trevor made was someone else's fault.  I never said that. 

But I'm sure you could cherry-pick plays from any QB last year, and point to mistakes that were 100% the fault of that QB.  What you seem to be ignoring is the fact that Trevor was a rookie QB on the worst team in the league with the worst head coach in NFL history.

It's not cherry picking when it's your entire season. Yeah, ofcourse I could do that. And most QBs in the NFL aren't that good and are replaceable.. and none of them were as highly rated as Lawrence coming out of college. I'm not ignoring what he had going against him in terms of coaching/talent. Again, like i've said a million times in this thread and elsewhere. He made mistakes with this team, that he made with a national championship college team.

I don't think there was a QB talented enough in the NFL (except maybe Mahomes) that could have elevated this team to a wildcard spot last year.. that being said, there are plenty of good QBs who would have still shown their talent despite losing. 

I think the biggest disconnect people on this board have with me is I feel like people think that I believe he's a bust and want him to fail to prove a point. For the record, had I been the GM in 2021 I would have also selected Trevor. We had to get a QB and he was the most promising of the group. I just think he was severly overrated, and is not a sure fire pick as most seem to think. My biggest problem with his rookie season again, is that I sat and watched him show almost 0 improvement on his weak areas that he had at Clemson. And while i'm sure a lot of people on this board don't see those same issues because the most of Lawrence they saw in college was his highlight videos on youtube.. I see it clear as day.

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(07-16-2022, 08:25 AM)RicoTx Wrote: Moth ———> Flame

He just can’t stay away.

Best part is, he can’t be ‘wrong’.  If he does well this season, it’s all Pederson.

Yes because I haven't made an entire thread saying I'll be glad to eat crow if he has a great season this year.. right?

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